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pumbus

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well i've had this lion for a few weeks and i have no idea what the species name is,i bought him as a peacock lion but god only knows what he is,he's really nice with alot of colour in his fins
here a vid
http://s10.photobucket.com/albums/a107/pumbino/Saltwater/?action=view&current=MOV06223.flv

and a pic
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thanks, i read that article before and lost the link:p

i didn't think a volitan's fins had membrane connecting there fins,and they don't seem to have the same pattern,i thought it was to but lately i'm not so sure,he's only 3" but his fins are alot longer
anybody have a pic of a small volitan?
 
Here's a picture of a very small juvenile from a friends gallery.

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The photo is from Todd Gardner who also caught the lion off the south shore of Long Island.
 
That's a baby volitan? :eek: I have a few pictures of that fish saved from google images for reference photos (to draw), and always thought it was some kind of cold water lion. How cool! I'll have to rename the files.
 
That's a baby volitan. Last couple of years large number of them in the one to two inch range were caught of the south shore of Long Island here on the East Coast. Todd as caught them when water temperatures were down to mid to upper 50's and they were still fine, unlike the typical Carribean Tropicals we get here during the summer that are obviously shocking out and dieing off at those temps.
 
Hi Frank,

Yup, that's a baby Volitans that Todd caught. So far it's the only lionfish species I know of being caught around here. Todd has quite a display of them that have grown out now and look like your classic volitans.

Interestingly, last year there were literally hunderds of them caught late summer and early fall. This year I only know of one confirmed report of one. But it was also an odd year for the usual tropicals.
 
Were can one purchase one of these "baby" volitans? Or even better, one of the Lionfish in the dive photo that FMarini just posted? Sorry for the OT.
 
Justin--
that color pattern and spotting you see in the dive photo are identical to what Bill posted, apparently same species of fish. The dive photo is just perfect lighting, looking up


Nill---Thats crazy, well besides the fact that your finding P Volitans off the Long island coast. Coloration are unique
 
Referring to the first picture of th thread:
these are usually always available in LFS as a volitan lionfish.

I had one for a half of year in the tank with usual temperature, 78F, no problems. Easy to wean to a frozen food. As I see it, these are almost transparent "windows" in the fins, not holes.

Lost it during vodka treatment for reducing nitrates.

Image search shows a lot of similar images, when doing search on volitan lionfish.
 
thanks dendro,the fins on that guy are just like mine,mine was brought in through my work and i kept calling it a volitan and the guys at work said it wasen't, HAHA guess i'm gonna have a fun day tommorow,how did you get yours on frozen?

and i'm thinking of getting a dwarf lion as well,think this is a good idea or?,what would you recomend,i'm thinking fuzzy dwarf but open to pretty much anything
 
They are almost always available at Big Al's chain stores (it seems, they are sponsor here, it should be OK), under this name. I checked the web through the image search - a lot of pictures with similar name and appearance.

Weaning: I did nothing, it was fed by gut loaded feeder fish for a first weeks, then volitan just joined the other fish during feeding time. Grocery shrimp and salmon were on menu, if this matters. May be feeding was just not sufficient, it started to eat much more - you can see belly at the photo.

I could only wish that the other lionfishes were so self-sufficient, as volitans, but two mombasa lions, that followed, were not possible to wean at all.

You know about sticky volitan thread, right? There should be weaning too.

From what I had seen through volitan web search, there are very similar to volitan lionfishes, Pterois too, but:
- one kind has almost unseparated fin rays, thick-looking,
- other has separated, but wide rays,
- and Pterois volitans, but Sri Lankan one is more elongated and slender, than the shorter hunchbacked oceanic kind.

I could be mistaken, it was long time ago, and now it's recalling from the top of my head - it takes a lot of time to make a new search. Some were mentioned as P. miles and others - P. lunulata, and about Sri-Lankan - just was shortly mentioned somewhere.

About dwarf lionfish: better wait, what Frank Marini says, and check the forums - a lot of posts about them. There is very small difference in the size (1" or so) between dwarf and not dwarf, like mombasa. And the zebra dwarf is very similar to it, only less attactive fins - almost no free standing rays.

BTW, there is drastic difference in behavior: if volitan is free and majestic in its movements, mombasa, having the shorter fins, is more laborious in its movements - totally different impression, with own charm, like dancer with fans. It's like comparing hound and pug :D But we all are limited by tank size.

Remember about small colorful frogfish, it's about 4", dwells on the bottom, is very interesting, and could be bought cheap in US, and here the similar looking ones are above $200 :( Link to Frogfish files .
 
I had seen frog fish (or other, big angler - I'm unable to tell them apart) only twice for all my frequent visits to LFSs: the bright red was always $219, and was sold fast, and the brown or sand colored other kinds were at $60, with not many willing to buy them.

In one thread , something like Nano for a frogfish, the colorful frogfish was bought in US for $36. :Envy:
 
With the frogs, always be sure of the species. Some of the common ones, such as the Comersons, show up as small juveniles but can get large enough to swallow a football :eek1: BTW most frogfish are very adept at changing color, so take a chance on the drab ones and put them in small tank with background the color you want them ;)
 
I bought once a cute pie fish, pinkie size - in 5 months had to set 90g tank :D

The sand colored were close in appearance to the leaf scorpionfish: high dorsal fin, but short stump "legs".
I'm more fond of frogfish like clown or painted frogfish, or red ;)
 
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