LIPA Survey

[DEXTER SOLIS]

Lonnie, its not the size of your tank. if you are using a Dart & have to turn it down, have you considered a Snapper that uses about half the wattage?

 

[sleezyp1]

www.nationalphotovoltaics.com

 

[cb747]

you mean http://www.nationalphotovoltaics.com/ you missed the N

 

[shyland83]

this is scaring me. Lonnie are you claiming that your tank is costing you 300 a month? I just got an electric bill and it was about 270. But i don't know if my tank was running for that whole billing period.

 

[sleezyp1]

Thanks Chris you posted while I was editing it. I just type slow.

 

[LCGoldman]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9950183#post9950183 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by shyland83
this is scaring me. Lonnie are you claiming that your tank is costing you 300 a month? I just got an electric bill and it was about 270. But i don't know if my tank was running for that whole billing period.

That's what LIPA says... mind you I'm "only" running 580w of lighting... a Dart pump as Dexter pointed out... but I thought that Tony sold me a most efficient pump. Perhaps I don't have a Dart LOL.

 

[shyland83]

when i do the math, assuming an average of 400 watts for 24 hours a day and $.09 per kwh i get about 30 bucks a month. I must be missing something.

 

[pecan2phat]

Scott,
If your paying LIPA only $.09 a kilowatt on Long Island, then you must be a blood relative

You have to figure out the surcharge also.

Probably closer to $.17 to $.20 a kilowatt for you guys.

 

[qy7400]

Lonnie check you heater and chiller, if LIPAs telling you half that bill is from just your tank somethings not working correctly or the neighbors really are tapped into you sub-panel.

 

[jnfallon]

our bills about $700/mo. i hate lipa.

 

[shyland83]

ok my last bill was actually 500. i didn't realize they seperate delivery charges and supply charges. when i divide my total usage by my total bill after taxes i get just under $.19/kwh. but still, when i do the math, even if i overestimate and say i use an average of 600 watts for 24 hours that comes to $82 a month. And if SOMEHOW your pulling 1000 watts 24 hours a day, thats still only 135 a month. i'm going to assume what lipa was saying was at the time, the tank was drawing half the power the house was drawing. if your lights were on and there was nothing else big in the house running at the time thats very possible. does that make sense?

 

[jgiordano]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9951051#post9951051 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnfallon
our bills about $700/mo. i hate lipa.

If your signatures are correct you and lcgoldman are paying close to the same and you have 4X the amount of volume.

Have you guys looked into solar? The upfront cost would be a lot but you both are already paying lipa 7200 and 8400 a year.

 

[keefsama2003]

my 300 was costing me 500$ a month to run after i took it offline my bill dropped 500$

so regardless of what these calculators say it adds up and i had a Dart / Baracuda / 162 Watts of T5 lighting on the tank. and 2x500w heaters
on a controller

 

[Corpus Callosum]

I'm thinking of getting a few solar panels and selling electricity back to the company. An expensive part of the system is the battery, and if you just sell the electricity back instead of storing it, you save like 20% of the system costs.. the panels could be a good amount but I think it would be worth it in the long run.

 

[diverrad]

not sure if NY is part of it but there are quite a few states that will split the upfront cost of getting solar panels with you.

 

[qy7400]

NY is one of them, the offer a few tax incentives and rebates for those who switch.

http://www.lipower.org/cei/solar.html

 

[LCGoldman]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9952478#post9952478 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by shyland83
ok my last bill was actually 500. i didn't realize they seperate delivery charges and supply charges. when i divide my total usage by my total bill after taxes i get just under $.19/kwh. but still, when i do the math, even if i overestimate and say i use an average of 600 watts for 24 hours that comes to $82 a month. And if SOMEHOW your pulling 1000 watts 24 hours a day, thats still only 135 a month. i'm going to assume what lipa was saying was at the time, the tank was drawing half the power the house was drawing. if your lights were on and there was nothing else big in the house running at the time thats very possible. does that make sense?

Yes, that makes sense... they did have me turn off everything in the house, including all lights, etc., except for the fish tank stuff.

 

[LCGoldman]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9952542#post9952542 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jgiordano
If your signatures are correct you and lcgoldman are paying close to the same and you have 4X the amount of volume.

Have you guys looked into solar? The upfront cost would be a lot but you both are already paying lipa 7200 and 8400 a year.

Actually it's definitely something we were going to look in to, and then I forgot until you just posted this.

I did meet with a client a few weeks ago, and was telling me that they did just that... and in the summer, they didn't pay LIPA for their usage, they actually RECEIVED a check from LIPA for $1000 because LIPA took some of their stored energy.

Amazing!!

 

[LCGoldman]

I just ran the estimated installation costs based on our usage, etc., After all rebates, and tax credits, it would cost us $75,617 to install. To finance over 10 years would be $877.98 per month.

Any one care to buy some energy futures from us to help finance this?

I know that in the long run this would much more than pay for itself of course - We'll have to figure out a way to make this work.

 

[Corpus Callosum]

Yeah if you produce more than what you use you will receive a check in return.. worth looking into on the long run.