Live Rock and Bristle Worms?

cvsailer

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I was told by someone who builds/maintains tanks for a living that live rock can introduce bristle worms to your tank and sometimes it can be a real problem to remove. Consequently he does not recommend using live rock. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
 
There is NOTHING wrong with a bristleworm... not to be confused with the rare fireworm..


They look close but are night and day.

Look at some of my threads. I have one that is on my 120g... and it includes pics/video of bristleworm eating and all.
 
I believe that live rock is a essential part of a reef or saltwater system. That's my opinion of course.
As far as bristle worms they are NOT harmful ( well dont pick them up or you will be bummed.. With little hair like bristles stuck in your finger) to your reef. Many say they eat clams but I have thousands of them and also have a rather large clam bed( for a few years now). If I see a larger one I will throw it in the sump using tongs. They are great scavengers and detritus eaters as well .
 
I like them even though I'm new to this stuff but the colours on it are pretty cool :-) and it's interesting too watch when the lights out at night :)


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Luv me just about anything "bristle/brittle". Bristle worms, micro brittle stars. I've had most fun looking at all the oddball critters that came w/ my liverock than the actual coral/fish.

Some stuff I still don't know what it is. (Translucent just straight tube forming, micro see through little anems (not aptasia.) Got some pods nearly big enough for a person to eat.
 
Luv me just about anything "bristle/brittle". Bristle worms, micro brittle stars. I've had most fun looking at all the oddball critters that came w/ my liverock than the actual coral/fish.

Some stuff I still don't know what it is. (Translucent just straight tube forming, micro see through little anems (not aptasia.) Got some pods nearly big enough for a person to eat.


I know you say translucent... but can you take a picture?
 
If I used dry rock purchased from BRS, would it eventually provide some of the same benefits as live rock (obviously not during the cycling period) over time in terms of filtration, algae growth, etc?
 
Yes .. but you really need to seed it with some Live Rock from another person/lfs/online...

Personally.. Get 75% dry rock from the place you want... Then get the last 25% Live Rock from at least 2 different TRUSTED places... The reason I say at least two is this provides some diversity to the bacteria. Remember not all LFS are trusted.... hahahaha...

I got my dry then I went to three different LFS and hand selected the LR. Yes I even got some with aptasia on it from the start. The bristle worms and copepods were more valuable, to me, than the aptasia pain in the rear was going to be. I even got some actual live sand, in addition to the stuff in a bag.

Some people put it in from the start of the cycle... but if it is trusted... I dont want to kill it off with an accidental miss salting or accidently PH going acidic or too base...

SO.... Add your rock/sand/pre-mixed water and let it sit for at least 2 weeks. Then seed it...


Yeah I know some people dont have any friends or contacts to get the LR/LS from.. so yes then you have to go online or via forums...
 
Here is one example:

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If the guy is actually in the business and says that you should not use live rock for your tank, let that serve as a reminder not to take future advise from him again.
Ken
 
If I used dry rock purchased from BRS, would it eventually provide some of the same benefits as live rock (obviously not during the cycling period) over time in terms of filtration, algae growth, etc?

Yeah, you'll just be missing out on all the life that tends to accompany live rock. (worms, pods, stars, sponges, etc) You can buy these critters online though if you like.
 
Yeah, you'll just be missing out on all the life that tends to accompany live rock. (worms, pods, stars, sponges, etc) You can buy these critters online though if you like.

So the dry rock would eventually provide the same filtration benefits of live rock over time without the introductoin of the critters?
 
Yes... but just like making yeast bread...

You can eventually get the nice rich flavor over a long time, or get a small pinch of someone elses to add to your starter and let it help 'seed' your own to a rich and bountiful mixture.
 
So the dry rock would eventually provide the same filtration benefits of live rock over time without the introductoin of the critters?

Yes.

It dosn't have to be rock though. Basically anything that's submerged will function as a filter given time.
 
Thanks for all the feedback. I would rather not deal with the potential downside of introducing critters into my fish only setup. If the dry rock will provide the same filtration benefits of live rock over time, I'm going to use only the dry rock. Thanks again.
 
Thanks for all the feedback. I would rather not deal with the potential downside of introducing critters into my fish only setup. If the dry rock will provide the same filtration benefits of live rock over time, I'm going to use only the dry rock. Thanks again.

If you read the stickies section, you will find that there are ways to clean your live rock and search for critters you want and don't want before adding it to your system.

Also, people that tend to have the most problems with live rock are the ones that buy ALL live rock. If you are only buying a piece or two, it is very easy to rinse in SW and use a flash light to inspect the rock before adding it to your system.

In the long run, you will miss out on the diversity of beneficial bacteria population you attain from using live rock. I would at the very least get a cup or two of sand from an established tank and use that to seed your tank if you still prefer to go all base rock.
 
I started my tank about a year and a half ago and did 100% dry rock and 50% live sand 50% dry sand and about a year after setup I was able to get corralling algae and the rock looked mostly like live rock. Even still I have to rotate it so it gets an even algae growth.
 
Oh yea and I have bristle worms and tiny annoying spiral worm things and mini feather duster prickly things... In the end it doesn't matter how you start, you'll get annoying things. It's the hobby.
 
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