Yeah Sky... after reading the comments I might just go with Damsels and call it a day. Not trying to sound cruel here but if a Damsel commits suicide its not going to hurt my feelings too much... now if I dropped 100$ on a Jaw Fish and I came home and he was shriveled up on the floor I lose my mind.
Look for a non jumper for shallow rimless
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Yeah Sky... after reading the comments I might just go with Damsels and call it a day. Not trying to sound cruel here but if a Damsel commits suicide its not going to hurt my feelings too much... now if I dropped 100$ on a Jaw Fish and I came home and he was shriveled up on the floor I lose my mind.
Nah... if it comes down to it I will pass on the fish. I know that I will be taking a calculated risk no matter what I go with but I built this tank so I didnt need a top anymore to put one on it is defeating the purpose of the whole build.
My question really came from having observed MANY LFS in the area who house a majority of their fish in topless tanks. Now they have deeper pockets than I do and can afford to lose a fish from time to time but I certainly cant do that. I just was hoping to compile a small list of fish less prone to jumping than others but it seems like I have opened a can of worms lol....
gogators1088
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i had a diamond goby and its jumped the first night it was in the tank...so from my experience, gobies are jumpers but ive got 2 clowns a yellowtail damsel, scooter blenny and manderin and a 46 bow and none of them have jumped or look like theyve even tried...just my 2 cents
SkyPapa
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I had the same thoughts and now think the damsels are cool fish and they have a truly awesome iridescent blue color.
I had a blue spot jawfish make it through double netting a couple of years ago. I paid $129 plus shipping from LADD.
EvilMel
is a serious goby fanatic
Jawfish will find any little hole anywhere and hit the floor...same for firefish (which are dartfish and not gobies).
I've even had clowns jump but it's usually the younger ones.
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I've even had clowns jump but it's usually the younger ones.
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gogators1088
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i got them together when they were small and they both take frozen food...and im building my 75 gal as we speak!!!
boodlefish
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with rimless tanks becoming more and more popular the suicide fish issue seems to like it is more commonly discussed. i have seen lots of people give out tons of advice like this fish will jump or that fish is safe. It is often the same rational that is repeated at the LFS.
the key to keeping fish in the tank is providing them a safe and comfortable environment. my 6-line wrasse is at risk of being a jumper so i added him to my rimless tank first. he was able to find a couple of safe hiding places and claim his territory. i then added my kole tang, powder brown tang, two blue chromis, and my two clowns. all was well for a while but eventually my female ocellaris clown yes the big one jumped. i was mad. i had been watching the wrasse as a proposed "will jump" fish and the dang "wont jump" fish jumped.
i then added a harem of lyrtail anthias yes they are all "will jump" fish there have been some territory disputes between the wrasse and lyrtails but with 6 lyrtails to chase it never amounts to much. i later also purchased an ich magnet "hippo tang" and traded for a little clown. well all was going well when i had another jumping incident. the hippo tang jumped! weird tangs dont jump. i found him on the ground white and hard, i took a chance and put him back in the tank and he swam right into a rock. i was thinking great now he will die in there and i will have to dig him out. well the next morning all was well and my stupid hippo tang was trying to keep the lyertails form schooling as usual. i havent had any problems since then. (knock on wood)
point is even fish that will jump, don't and fish that wont, do. but if you are able to keep your fish happy enough there wont be a reason for any of them to jump. it helps to have a actinic only lighting phase of your light cycle because going form black to light is startling and has been attributed to jumping well at least thats what my LFS said....
the key to keeping fish in the tank is providing them a safe and comfortable environment. my 6-line wrasse is at risk of being a jumper so i added him to my rimless tank first. he was able to find a couple of safe hiding places and claim his territory. i then added my kole tang, powder brown tang, two blue chromis, and my two clowns. all was well for a while but eventually my female ocellaris clown yes the big one jumped. i was mad. i had been watching the wrasse as a proposed "will jump" fish and the dang "wont jump" fish jumped.
i then added a harem of lyrtail anthias yes they are all "will jump" fish there have been some territory disputes between the wrasse and lyrtails but with 6 lyrtails to chase it never amounts to much. i later also purchased an ich magnet "hippo tang" and traded for a little clown. well all was going well when i had another jumping incident. the hippo tang jumped! weird tangs dont jump. i found him on the ground white and hard, i took a chance and put him back in the tank and he swam right into a rock. i was thinking great now he will die in there and i will have to dig him out. well the next morning all was well and my stupid hippo tang was trying to keep the lyertails form schooling as usual. i havent had any problems since then. (knock on wood)
point is even fish that will jump, don't and fish that wont, do. but if you are able to keep your fish happy enough there wont be a reason for any of them to jump. it helps to have a actinic only lighting phase of your light cycle because going form black to light is startling and has been attributed to jumping well at least thats what my LFS said....
Thanks Tucker... thats pretty much what I extrapolated from the whole conversation... heck I believe even a SOLO fish will jump given the right circumstance. Problem is I have no control over what could "potentially" provoke a fish to jump... a shadow, a noise, the A/C coming on... who the heck knows. I just find it interesting MANY LFS seem to be keeping more and more fish in lidless tanks. Ahhh... I may just pass on the whole affair and buy another coral... lol at least I wont come home and find that lying on the floor...
Thanks,
Mark
Thanks,
Mark
Like the Op I've been thinking about this a lot lately. Its worse in my case because I do keep a lot of jumpers. Many would be dead already if I didn't have netting over their tank.
However, I agree mostly with what Tucker said. Except that I'd also look at how the fish behaves when its threatened. For fish that seek cover in the rockwork, great. They're low risk IMO. But some fish when frightened make a vertical dart. With those fish, no matter how 'happy' they are, I think they're still too great a risk in a shallow rimless tank. Thats why my Helfrichi firefish won't be getting moved over to my new rimless set up., but why other fish will.
However, I agree mostly with what Tucker said. Except that I'd also look at how the fish behaves when its threatened. For fish that seek cover in the rockwork, great. They're low risk IMO. But some fish when frightened make a vertical dart. With those fish, no matter how 'happy' they are, I think they're still too great a risk in a shallow rimless tank. Thats why my Helfrichi firefish won't be getting moved over to my new rimless set up., but why other fish will.
