Prater, I appreciate the heads up, I'm hoping to find a "used" specimen for cheaper than full price first. Possibly even someone willing to trade for something in my tank. if all that fails, then I'll look at the LFS, but pesonally, I'm not very impressed with most the LFS and actually prefer mail order to local stores. I did notice last time I was in the Pet Place they did have some that would work perfectly, hopefully they'll still be their if I need to buy em.