Looking for some opinions on PVC rock risers

mike660r

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I am thinking about using some sch 80 1" PVC cut in 2" lengths to pick my rock up off the sand bed. I read that Calfo recommends this. Anyone else read anything about it. I am looking for some pros and cons.
 
Pros. Sand moving can't collapse your rock work. It also allows for flow all over your rock, so less detritus accumulation. Cons. I found it to be a giant pain for the rock to sit right. If you have more patience than I it should be a problem.
 
My understanding is this method will provide for fewer dead spots in the LR for better filtration. Additionally, it will give you a more stable base without the danger of sand sifting critters upsetting your rockwork. I did something similar with mine.
 
Hi Mike,

I did this in my reef tank about six years ago. I can't verify if it works(no dead spots) but the logic makes sense. My rocks are not off of the sand bed but just meet the sandbed. I don't think it will hurt if you do this and it does seem to stabilize the rocks that rest on the PVC supports.

Dave
 
I tried to do this with my current system. I have to admit, I lost patience and pulled them. In the long run however, I think its a good idea as it increases the area of aerobic sand layers.
 
I intend to join some of rock with zip ties or nylon rod. I think I can make the base of my rock work a little more stable to sit on the PVC feet that way. I had a really good and open flow design laid out on my garage floor Saturday. I hope I can do it again. My rock has a little odor to it so once it comes in I have to get it in the water ASAP or the house is going to need a lot of poupperi (sp)
 
I went at it a little differently (story of my life). I should have some pics in my gallery that may give you an idea or two.
 
Wouldn't it be easier to use something like 2" PVC or even ABS? It just seems to make sense that it would be more stable with larger tubing.
 
If you do it use larger diameter PVC than 1", I used 2" and 1-1/2"
The second trick is that they have to be cut square. As it is dificult to do I used couplings rather than cutting pipe but that calls for a deep sand bed to cover them.
The third tip is to use larger live rock for the bottom.
Finally, perforate the sides to prevent stagnation inside and
use three for each rock.
They will be more stable after adding the sand.

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Hey Eddie,

I see what you are talking about. I have enough large pieces of rock to get the vertical rises without it. I am just concerned about leaving the rock in the sand. I had some nasty black spots under my rock in my 180 when I pulled it out. Plus, the sand seemed to harden up and start to reform like rock. I want to keep that from happening again. I think I had some other factors such as super high calcium that may have played into the solidifcation of the sand too.
 
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Hey Eddie,

I see what you are talking about. I have enough large pieces of rock to get the vertical rises without it. I am just concerned about leaving the rock in the sand. I had some nasty black spots under my rock in my 180 when I pulled it out. Plus, the sand seemed to harden up and start to reform like rock. I want to keep that from happening again. I think I had some other factors such as super high calcium that may have played into the solidifcation of the sand too.

I am having the same issues in my tank. Not sure if its due to calcium/alk issues. I've done some reading on it and it seems the jury is still out. Some have implicated bacteria in the sand which causes localized low pH on each grain of sand that ends up welding them together.
 
I sorta wish i would have done it. I've got 3 gobys and 2 pistol shrimp. I had to adjust my rock 3 times so far to keep things stable. Little suckers can really dig some holes.
 
I've got a bunch of smaller rocks. I may just drill them out and zip tie them together to make feet for the rocks to sit on and use 2" PVC in the back where it can't be seen.
 
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