Loosing color on Monti caps

Robert Patterso

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I'm loosing or have lost most all color on my monti caps, palawenisis. All other sps/acros are doing good. On the sps the p.e is great. Just the monti caps. I did have a alk spike (12) a couple weeks ago but got it back down over about a weeks time. I also started using kalk about 6 wks ago. Not really sure which is the cause. Thinkin about stopping the kalk for awhile and see what happens. Any ideas, anybody?
 
Thought about that, had them a couple a yrs ago in a different tank. I haven't spotted any yet. Guess I will have to check at lights out. Don't see any signs of em as of now.
 
Have they browned out or bleached? Montis are much more sensitive to alk and ph swings than acros. Do you have a ph meter? What bulbs are you running?
 
Its the Reeflux's guaranteed. The older they get, the more damage they do. I think they must let out uv or something as they degrade. I whole bunch of my montis got damaged under those bulbs and it took us awhile to rule everything out. Even my acros started to suffer under them.
 
It's not the the bulb. When my monti caps start turning brown, I start dosing potassium. Within a week they're color returns.
 
In retrospect it might not be your bulbs, but I wouldn't rule it out. I have met several people now that have been running those bulbs and started experiencing trouble with their montis when those bulbs started to get old.

Those bulbs just don't hold their par well. The first set of ReefLux we bought were 10ks. Both bulbs were exactly the same, purchased at the same time, but one was very yellow and the other was more pink.

I was able to hunt down a picture of how it looked. Same exact bulbs.


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So we tried another set of 14k bulbs. These seemed ok, but once we hit like 8 or 9 months old my montis started to brown out a bit. We couldn't figure it out because our nitrates we at 0. No major ph swings or over dosing alkalinity. Temperature was fine too. Also no pests. We did visual inspections and even dipped to be on the safe side. We even scaled back on dosing Zeovit chemicals and reducing the Prodiobio, thinking that maybe our water was too clean. But no improvement in the corals.

At around 10-11 months my montis started having real tissue damage, mild bleaching and patchy tissue loss. Even my acroporas started looking unhappy. It got to the point that I removed my large monti mother colonies and put them in my other tank until we figured out the problem. My caps and encrusting montis were especially effected. We did regular water tests and water changes, everything was coming out fine. But the sps continued to look like they were getting burned or shocked. Corals that had been under the same lighting in the same spot for the whole year were looking worse.

So we came to the conclusion that maybe it was the lights. About three months ago now, we changed over to 400w 20K Radiums. It took about 1.5 months for my corals to make a turnaround and put on new growth. Now they are all doing very well. The colors have come back and they have new tips. I finished moving all the rest of my large montis back the other day and they seem happy.

I have met more people recently that have started to experience problems with their montis that were previously doing great and their tank parameters are fine. Everyone that I've spoken with has had 8+ month old ReefLux bulbs in common. Is this just a coincidence? Somebody that has time on their hands should take some scientific measurements or something and see if there is an issue with this bulb as it ages or if its just a fluke.
 
It could very well be the bulbs. Something isn't right for sure and the monti's are the one's being effected the most. Growth on everything has slowed to a crawl. Parameters seem to be in check so it has me scratchin my head for sure. My plan has been to switch to radiums later after things grew out more but I might do it sooner
 
+1 on the bulbs, have had the same issues in the past with those, 8 - 9 months seems to be the end of life on those for some reason. I would stick with the radiums, great bulbs and they last, def worth the money
 
We are using IceCapp 400w electronic ballasts. I'm not so great on the equipment end, I let my hubby handle the "mechanic" side and I do the coral care side. ;] So I can't really speak for your ballast. But now that my sps have adjusted to the Radiums they are all looking so nice and I'm getting very good growth too!

Some new shots I took tonight.


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just bumping this thread, over the last couple of weeks some of my acros have browned out and my deswali and acouple other look like they have alk burn, i have tested and tested but nothing was out of order. My reeflux 12k bulb is just over 7 months tho so its quite interesting to see others have had the same problems. i will change the bulb and see if that has been whats caused the problems
 
I have had the radiums in now for about 3 wks. My caps have not responded at all. Think there was to much damage done. Going to pull em all out and trash em. Unfortunately. Can't honestly say it was the reeflux bulbs but I can't figure out why nothing else in tank was effected. NO Monti's
 
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