Lovin it down deep!

tgreene

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107' today and going for 120' tomorrow morning... Oh sure, it's *cold* down there, 27* colder than the surface in fact, but the vis is so much better below the thermoclines. I'm just really diggin the deeper dives, though I have also been on a couple of sites where I had just as much fun at 8-12.

Oh yeah scooter batteries don't like the cold water nearly as much, but a scooter rated for 100' will handle 107' just fine and your air will last a lot longer too.

I'm quickly approaching 50 dives since the end of March when I was first OW certified, and my bouyancy and trim are really beginning to get dialed in!!!

-Tim
 
how long are you down there? How long does it generally take to get cold in a dry suit? I have never gotten deep enough for a dry suit but want to get into it.
 
I have gone down to 100+ feet a few times, and I really don't really understand the fascination with it. I rather stay above 60ft where my air consumption is much slower. But everyone have their own preference. My wife doesn't like some of the dives I do, and I don't like some of her dives.

Where are you diving? Wish I had a scooter. :D
 
deepest i've been is 95 feet, my wife got creeped out down that deep, but me i felt like i could have kept goin. You feel any narcosis down that deep?
 
how long are you down there?
I was only there for about 1 minute as I skimmed along the the bottom analyzing the terrain. This was at Mermet Springs, which is a quarry in southern Illinois.

How long does it generally take to get cold in a dry suit?
I have absolutely no idea, because I've never been in a drysuit...I was diving wet!

I have never gotten deep enough for a dry suit but want to get into it.
I'll more than likely get dry suit certified sometime this winter, because the instructors and DM's that were with their students looked real nice and cozy. Myself and another diver were the "tag-alongs" this weekend, and the other diver was diving dry too.

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I have gone down to 100+ feet a few times, and I really don't really understand the fascination with it. I rather stay above 60ft where my air consumption is much slower. But everyone have their own preference. My wife doesn't like some of the dives I do, and I don't like some of her dives.
It's certainly not for everyone, which is why the vis is generally far better due to not being silted in... Especially by OW students without any fin or bouyancy control. I've just always been more of an "explorer" if you will, so I really enjoy following a wall and see the changes along the way as well as the different types of fish that tend to congregate at specific levels. While you certainly do burn a lot more air, the scooter allows you to use less since you're not working nearly as hard and I was able to zxip back and forth across the quarry while maintaining a very consistent level while off gassing on my very slow ascent which I did in a zig-zag manner rather than remaining stationary for a traditional safty stop.

Where are you diving? Wish I had a scooter.
Mermet Springs -- I bought my scooters on eBay for under $150 each including shipping. They are the Sea-Doo knockoffs that are brown and black (search "dive scooters"). I bought them from the guy in Florida that has them listed starting at $134. Since buying them, several other local divers have expressed interest in getting Scooter Certified as well.

We've had them in the pool a couple of times prior to this weekend, but this was the first time they have seen any serious use. Yesterday I had the pleasure of diving with my instructor for a fun dive after he was done with his OW students, and we covered some serious territory with them, including zipping in and out of the 727 jet that is at Mermet... At one point when we were playing "follow the leader", he was trying to shake me loose and went into the side emergeny door, and then straight out the other side... I was able to get in, but because I have a Pony tank mounted on my rig, I wasn't able to get out the same way, so after 3 tries of the exit being too narrow for me to squeeze my rig through, I backed up and wnet through the entire fuselage of the plane then out the main door directly behind the cockpit... It was awesome to zoom through a huge jet with the scooter!!!

When we finally surfaced, one of the guys in our group said that they were amazed at how fast we were moving, based upon our bubble trails... One guy said they forgot that we had taken the scooters in with us, and they couldn't believe how fast a couple of divers wrere swimming, then someone else reminded them that we had them. I was told that if they turned their heads for just a minute, they would lose us because we were in a totally different area by the time they figured out where we were. :D

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deepest i've been is 95 feet, my wife got creeped out down that deep, but me i felt like i could have kept goin.

The only time I've been creeped out, was on a dive to 70' which ended up being a black water dive due to a coal dust like silt that would not allow for any light penetration even with my Ikelite C-8 LED. A buddy and I were hunting off the face of a wall, and we both spooked individually on 2 separate dives at the same site. On the first dive I was the one that became disoriented and started for the surface too quickly and he grabbed me, and on the 2nd dive it was I that stopped him... After 2 for 2, we aborted and moved to an upper ledge about 30'ish feet and stayed thereb for the duration that day!

You feel any narcosis down that deep?

I have not been narked yet but am looking for it, which is why I really wanted to hit 120' yesterday. The 120' deep dive never got to happen since my buddys car broke down on his way over to meet me at the dive site yesterday morning, so I had to dive with the OW students for the 1st dive, then did the scooter dive to about 58' later in the day as detailed above.

-Tim
 
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Just curious..
You are OW certified only and your "instructors" were letting you "tag along" on 100+ ft. dives with out your AOW cert. Sounds a little fishy..
 
I have gone down to 100+ feet a few times, and I really don't really understand the fascination with it. I rather stay above 60ft where my air consumption is much slower. But everyone have their own preference. My wife doesn't like some of the dives I do, and I don't like some of her dives.

The fascination with deep dives for me is the different species down there. I love pygmy angels and fish like flame wrasses, I collect almost all of my own fish, and that is where those types of fish live. I have trouble bringing fish up from deeper then about 200 ft so unless I'm looking for some specific inverts I limit my dives to less then that, but there are some of the most interesting fish down that deep and so that is where I try to dive.
 
Just curious..
You are OW certified only and your "instructors" were letting you "tag along" on 100+ ft. dives with out your AOW cert. Sounds a little fishy..
No, you have it backwards... Our LDS had 2 classes of OW students, but I'm OW/AOW/Nitrox/Night and working on DPV and DEEP specialties as well as planning to take RESCUE later this month. I was just along to dive, and on Saturday hooked up with another Advanced diver who's regular buddy was one of the staff DM's.

On yesterday mornings' dive, I tagged along with the OW class and assisted the DM's when necessary. :)

-Tim
 
Thanks TG, that certainly makes more sense !

Philter, why do you go to 100+ ft for Pygmy Angels?
We have them by the hundreds in 20 Ft. of water. I just
found a spot where they are inter breading with Flame Backs
giving all sorts of hybrid color variations.
Sorry no collecting here!

BTW the first Lion Fish was just captured on Curacao so they
have officially made it here. Hope to see them on the menu
soon.
 
I didn't think wet diving was possible with this weather, especially in Illinois
I guess I don't understand your post... Wet diving is always a possibility, even when Ice Diving should you want to do so.

The weather this past weekend was spectacular, and I have a nice sun-tanned back to prove it! While most in our group were clammoring for their dry clothes between dives, I simply peeled back my 5mm wetsuit, 5mm hooded vest, and 1mm wetsuit bottom layer and spent a few hours basking in the sun. :D

-Tim
 
Thanks TG, that certainly makes more sense !

Philter, why do you go to 100+ ft for Pygmy Angels?
We have them by the hundreds in 20 Ft. of water. I just
found a spot where they are inter breading with Flame Backs
giving all sorts of hybrid color variations.
Sorry no collecting here!

BTW the first Lion Fish was just captured on Curacao so they
have officially made it here. Hope to see them on the menu
soon.

That is cool, could you get pics? I love pygmy angels and I collect them here and in HI, I have potters, fishers and a single flame that I have collected over the years, along with my cherubs. I have dove places in the Bahamas where they were in 15 ft of water, but here in FL the shallowest I have ever seen them is 60 ft, and then it was only one big male, he was on a coral head seperated from the reef, normally if I want to collect a pygmy I have to dive below 100 ft and they are not common until about 120 ft. In HI when I go for potters angels they used to be common everywhere, but again lately I have not found them in less then 80 ft, but I know of others who see them in 20 ft, and the flame I collected was in about 12 ft. Fishers is another one that I have never seen shallow, the pr in my tank was collected at 109 ft, I know the exact depth because I know the bottom where I collected them.

I see lions on one dive in particular, 2 years ago a student studying them asked if I could collect some for him to do a DNA study, we couldn't work something out as he wanted me to release them after he got the samples, my feelings are that they are not native and if I'm going to collect we should not return them, and he didn't like that.
 
Good photos of Pygmies !!
Don't want much do you.
Those little suckers never hold still.
I have a lot of bad photos though.

Will work on it because it is a good challenge. Now I have to find someone who wants to sit at 20 ft. for 90 minutes !
This is one of the crosses.
 

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Good photos of Pygmies !!
Don't want much do you.
Those little suckers never hold still.
I have a lot of bad photos though.

Will work on it because it is a good challenge. Now I have to find someone who wants to sit at 20 ft. for 90 minutes !
This is one of the crosses.

I know what you mean, I have 100's of out of focus pics of several species, and only 3 good pics :)

Thanks for the photo, you are a much better photographer then me, and that photo is in focus and the whole fish is pictured you should be proud. If I ever get healthy again I would love to sit at 20 ft for 90 mins, that is how I get my aquarium ideas, and find new species that I want to keep. That is the way to observe, weather you are like me and collect or take pics or whatever, most people just float along and miss most of the subtle things, I have noticed that hunters and photographers see so much more, just by sitting in one spot and being patient.
 
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