LR Cooking....Will Prob. regret this.....

[mntl]

Yes, but most of what you will blow off is snail or crab poop, it looks round and slender compared to the chunks and mass amount of sand grain size pieces. The snail poop will never stop as long as you have snails . I blow off the rocks ocationaly.

--John

 

[CaveManNOhio]

Will rocks continue to shed even after cooking?

If you cook them long enough and have real good circulation and do regular water changes then no, you shouldn't get any( or very little) if you do the process long enough.

The reason I ask is becasue I did not cook my rocks. I cured UNCURED live rock in tank. Its been 3 months and my rock seems to harbor a lot of detritus. I can cloud up my entire tank just blowing off half the tank. Will this come to an end or will rock always be like this?

It is alway's good to blow them off from time to time. And get the stuff in the water colum so you can skim it out. The best time to do so is when you are doing water changes. Blow over the rocks while siphoning. Also hire a real good cleaning crew. There will always be some detritus, so you need the cleaners to help clean up as much as possible.

When you have a full blown SPS tank....do you still blow off the rock periodically or let it be?

Again it never hurts to blow it off from time to time. No matter what kind of corals you have. IMO

Sindjin, I love your signiture.:lol: :lol: I was talking to friend at lfs about doing the same thing with our 20 acre lake at work, right after he got me into the hobby.

Ludwigia73, Very good points. Very well stated.

 

[Teremei]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6448508#post6448508 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by CaveManNOhio

Glad to hear it.
Think about all the other pour critter's you starved to death. The ones you canââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢t see, but since you canââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢t see them you probably donââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢t care about them or the possible function they may have served.

Also as I have stated in the past I could see doing it if you got a real good deal on some LR that someone let turn into chia pet's and didn't attempt to control it. I could see wanting to clean it off with the process, but not to wipe it out 100%. (Or shall we say think we're wiping it out.)
When we should be looking at what way's to control vs. wiping out. [/B]

I just want to jump in, I'm setting up a new 125 tank and I'm currently cooking 60# of base rock. And I'll be cooking an additional 60# of marshall live rock. I'm not doing this to get rid of "chia pets" (although removal of stuck on algae is a bonus). . I am doing it to get rid of all the "crud" that is stuck in a live rock. That is a huge point that you kind of chose to glance over. (sorry didn't read all of page 2 and on)

I am very sensitive to all live forms in my tank. I mean when I clean filter bags with carbon in it I gently try to brush off any micro stars and pods into my main tank because I hate to see them die needlessly. So I feel just a little defensive about your statement about killing little critters. I did alot of research to make sure many lifeforms do infact survive the process.

What cooking does for me is this. What I've learned happens during the process is you are starving the benificial bacteria of anything else to eat in the cooking bin. So it is forced to "BORE" down into the rock and loosen up all the ditritus, gunk, ect. . that is stuck inside of the rock. Remember many of these "live" rocks are thousands of years old. They have 1000 years of "gunk" stuck deep inside them. And the bacteria loosens them so your rocks are very clean and healthy. I am amazed just at the gunk that came off my BASE rock (this is coral skeletens from the land that used to be part of the sea, so it IS "sea" rock, just dry). . Opening up more pores for my PODS and other life once I GET them into the tank, is one of the main reasons I decided to cook in the first place. Quick, someone please show him a picture of your cooking bin after moving your rock into another bin. Anyone have one?

 

[Boat Racer]

It wouldnt matter if ya showed 100 pics.These guys refuse to listen or try to understand this.Its a shame because I am doing it for the same reason you are no algee here either just crud dirtying up my tank.Not anymore

 

[CaveManNOhio]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6607813#post6607813 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Boat Racer
It wouldnt matter if ya showed 100 pics.These guys refuse to listen or try to understand this.Its a shame because I am doing it for the same reason you are no algee here either just crud dirtying up my tank.Not anymore

If you have crud dirtying up your tank then it sounds like to me you need to work on tank husbandry.

So are you going to start cooking your rock on a regular schedule? Cause you do know what you are cleaning off will come back. It will take a little time, but it will come back. After all it came out of the ocean that way didn't it?

As I said in the start of this thread, I could see doing it if you aquired some rock that was fully over grown with algae(chia pet) from some one not practicing good tank husbandry. But if you are buying quality Live Rock then there shouldn't be any need for it.

But hey if you want to do it be my guest. I personally think it's a big waste of time.

Happy Reefing to all!!

 

[ac green]

Will cooking LR help me cure the aiptasia problem I crrently have?

 

[antonsemrad]

no

 

[dkh0331]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8611598#post8611598 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ac green
Will cooking LR help me cure the aiptasia problem I crrently have?

It did for me. But I cooked my rock for 7 months.

 

[staticx]

cooking and curing live rock are two diff things. If you jsut throw it in a bucket with a heater and no light that is more of a curing live rock then cooking it. some people actually will take there live rock and boil it, now that kils everything. I can understaand curing your live rock to kill unwanted things or just finish of the die off but to actually cook your rock im confused

 

[kau_cinta_ku]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8640294#post8640294 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by staticx
cooking and curing live rock are two diff things. If you jsut throw it in a bucket with a heater and no light that is more of a curing live rock then cooking it. some people actually will take there live rock and boil it, now that kils everything. I can understaand curing your live rock to kill unwanted things or just finish of the die off but to actually cook your rock im confused

your way off. curing your rock don't kill off alage it basically does the same thing as cycling your tank.

cooking your rock (name is not what it seems) means to put it in a tub with a heater and flow with no light at all to kill off the alage but save all the other goodies on the rock.

 

[staticx]

Hmm curing yuour lr would just allow the die off to finish dying off. I dont know Im just a reefer I wouldnt "ccok" my lr unless i had to

 

[dkh0331]

Sometimes stuff happens. Personally I'm thankful to have found out about rock cooking. It got rid of my dino, bubble algae and aptasia. While my rock was cooking, I upgraded equipment, removed my dsb, improved my husbandry for the tank and now, all seems to be well for the past nine months. IMPHO, rock cooking was not the end all, but certainly a piece of the puzzle.

David

 

[Mogrash]

bah, cant someone officially change the name to extended curing?
'rock cooking' is a horrible horrible misnomer!