LTA next to Handoni(problems?)

[Reefing Newbie]

After rearranging my rock work 4 days ago, my LTA decided it didn't like is spot and started moving around the rock work. This morning I found on the sand right next to my carpet anemone. Is there goof to be any problems with this as far as stinging each other?

 

[Allmost]

they both have legs to move if stung, so I wouldnt worry ...

My BTA, lived at the foot of my carpet for about 1 year !!!! before the carpet got too big and I sold it.

 

[Reefing Newbie]

Okay, so if they bother eachother one should move? That good, the LTA moved over three feet from it's original location!

 

[Toddrtrex]

I tired this in the past -- the first time neither the LTA or the Haddoni would stay put until I removed the LTA.

The second time I did this was when I moved an LTA to a tank with an S. Haddoni -- just until the LTA was sold. I turned my back for a couple of seconds and the LTA was on top of the Haddoni about to be eaten. If the S. Haddoni is fully healthy, I suspect that it will sting the heck out of the LTA.

 

[Reefing Newbie]

My handdoni is 8-9" so I think he may end up doing some harm. I just need them to both live until the weekend. Which one will most likely host a pair of A. Ocellaris? I have an adult A. Ocellaris that lives in the LTA, but he is too big for it. I am thinking of trading both in for a GBTA and/or RBTA any thoughts?

 

[Reef1589]

some get lucky with having a S. Haddoni and BTA combo..some dont.. i personally.. just went threw a BTA/LTA/Haddoni combo... tried it all.. non stayed put until i removed the BTA/LTA from the tank.. i ended up getting rid of the LTA and moved the BTA's to another tank..once i took the BTA outta the tank the S. Haddoni stayed still, and finally opened up to its fully potential..

so i think your gonna have to decide which combo you want..

i had LTA/BTA successful in my 75g tank.. but LTA/S. Haddoni i didnt and BTA/S. Haddoni i didnt..

 

[Reefing Newbie]

My S. Handdoni has stayed in it's spot for 1.5 weeks. Finally opened up to his full potential before the rock was rearranged. Now that the lights are on, the LTA is opening up and looks like it is stinging the carpet. Unless the carpet is just folding up tue part that was touching the LTA to get at it...

 

[Reefing Newbie]

The LTA isn't looking very good... I noticed the carpet was letting the LTA move closer and closer. After noticing that I moved the LTA to the rock work, where it gripped in about five minutes. This morning it was under the rock work upside down. I placed back on its original rock after moving it where the LTA has stuck its foot down. Only problem is that all of the tentacles are deflated Should I just give it some more time? I have been feeding the tank PhytoMax to help the bleached BTAs in the tank recover, is this sufficient for the LTA?

 

[Toddrtrex]

LTA's (( M. doreensis )) are sandbed dwelling anemones, so I would first try putting it on/in the sandbed and not on the rocks.

 

[Reefing Newbie]

Here is a pic of it before it began moving. I was told LTA but now thinking about it, it could be something else as the guy I got it from called two bleached BTA's, "Florida Anemones" so I guess positive ID would be a good start on it.

When moving it the first time, it was placed right at the base of the rock work in the sand. It must not have got a very good grip as it was upside down under some rocks this morning.

 

[Toddrtrex]

Need to see the underside of the oral disc to be sure (( it is smooth or does it have "bumps? )), but from that picture I am thinking an LTA (( M. doreensis )).

 

[Reefing Newbie]

I think it is smooth. The only time I saw it was when it was next to the S. Handdoni. I guess just give it a day to recuperate before moving to the sand?

 

[Reefing Newbie]

Bad news as of today... The LTA looks lifeless. It moved around the rock last night a little, but hasn't moved at all today. Tentacles deflated, and overall looks like it is dead. Any way to tell if it is actually dead without smelling it?

 

[ousnakebyte]

I've said it many times, and I'll continue to say it...

Place all sand dwelling anemones in a 6-8" length of 3" pvc pipe with a cap on one end, filled with sand, place anemone on top and let it dig in. They'll stay put. I have had S. haddoni and LTA in the same tank for almost 10 years together, using this method for the last 7. Neither has moved in 7 years unless I move them...

Hope your LTA pulls through.

Cheers
Mike

 

[Reefing Newbie]

My LTA was dead as it was starting to decay... I assume that the S. Handdoni stung it quite a bit before I came in and moved the LTA away. With the pvc pipe, do you hide it in the rock work? And is 3" enough for an S. Handdoni? Mine has a 4"+ diameter foot, and an 8"+ oral disk. I plan on trading in the S. Handdoni in tomorrow along with most of the livestock I have to the lfs for my live stock plans. Should be trading in for a pair of black and white ocellaris with left over credit for instore. My true plan is to have several BTA's but the two I have are bleached... Saw some really nice RBTAs of various sizes at another lfs...

 

[ousnakebyte]

Yes, 3" diameter should be plenty. My haddoni pushes ~14" diameter when it is completely opened up. But, if you are planning on trading it in, then I wouldn't worry about it.

And yes, I just have a fw rocks around the pipe, and I use to grow star polyps on the pipe as well.

Mike

 

[Reefing Newbie]

Thanks for the tip! I will use it in the future if I ever do decide to get a different sand dwelling nem! The purple LTA's look quite nice, but I don't think that 4 160 watt VHO's over my 125 gallon is going to cut it.

 

[Reefing Newbie]

I don't know if this is related to the LTA stinging the Handdoni or not but I have noticed that the Handdoni's mouth has never really closed all the way... It was in the process of closing before the LTA moved near it, haven't fed it because I have read that you wait for the mouth to be closed before feeding. The handdoni has been moving closer to my rock work the past 4 days covering up some zoos and ploys which is okay as I don't want them. At least 50% of the time there is white showing on the corners of the mouth, what is it? Stomach I assume? I will give you water perameters and pics when I get home.