Mac or PC for new editing station

Rhizo

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I saved some cash for a noise reduction program(still looking around), and a new editing system.

It is about time I purchased a nice screen and complimentary hardware. My current system is not the fastest, but does pretty good with the massive cooling I have on it. My screen is so-so. Half the time I find myself guessing what colors should be, and don't really end up playing around with them much.

Considering the all in one 27'' Imac. For what it is worth is there anything in the PC range you suggest? Beerguy feel free to chime :)

Edit: I dont care much for the virus talk, gaming, and so fourth. It will not have an internet connection.
 
as someone in the computer graphics profession i would strongly recommend the mac for any photo manipulation applications. you wont be sorry that u chose a mac.
 
I like Macs for a bunch of reasons, mostly personal, and certainly recommend them.

That said, there are almost no differences between mainstream editing tools on either Mac or Windows. I think that the only real "win" that you can grant Mac over Windows is in Color management. It's much more tightly integrated. Regardless of which platform you choose, also buy a calibration device; i.e. Colorvision Spyder, Pantone Huey, etc..

Cheers
 
I use a quad core mac pro desktop with 2 23'' monitors, the dream system :) Couldn't ask for anything better. I had it for about a year, and usually just leave it on standby overnight only shutting it down for the weekend. Sometimes I have like 10 programs running (Photoshop, Bridge, all the office crap, e-mail, browser) and after one year I can tell you I never had to do a hard reset on it. It never crashed or froze on me.
 
My vote goes for OS X too. However if you have the skill/time I'd suggest you run a 'homemade' mac. That is you put together the hardware yourself and install os x on it. I've been running like this for a few years now and could not be happier. Saved a lot of money that way too.
 
definatly a mac. The imacs are gonna be on sale the day after thanksgiving at the mac store (and the macbook pros)
 
I like windows personally. I know a lot of people prefer macs but take the money you save buying a Windows PC instead of a Mac and put towards something way cooler. Like a camera or some corals! Not to mention everyone cool uses a PC :D
 
I'd have to strongly agree with this. Macs are just aesthetically much better.

I use a macbook pro and won't buy another PC.

FWIW, I was skeptical when our lab purchased Macs. I can honestly say I won't be going back anytime soon. Those screens are Amazing!!!

Note. I used three (!) to show my enthusiasm.
 
Why? What does a Mac do with graphics better than a PC?

If we don't count Final Cut Studio (the standard for video editing) which is Mac only, Adobe's products run on both Mac and PC so one could say that it doesn't matter what OS is running them.

However, it is not that Macs do anything better, it is just that the package you get from say iMac is better suited for graphics than most configured PCs from the big retailers. Most people don't realize that iMacs come with a H-IPS matrix display which cost about 4-5 times more than a the standard TN+Film display for the same size. These displays provide a great viewing angle, higher color accuracy. If you factor in the display price, the difference in $ between mac and pc disappears. Then again, I think the Mac OS is one of the best modern OS available today with its BSD core subsystem and you don't want your winamp to crash your photoshop while you're editing right? :)

Here is how big the difference is between the H-IPS and TN+Film screens:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG7XNwbUYEM

Cheers,
Georgi
 
I always hear that Mac is better for anything with graphics. The computer labs at my university use Mac ONLY for graphics and music editing.
 
If we don't count Final Cut Studio (the standard for video editing) which is Mac only, Adobe's products run on both Mac and PC so one could say that it doesn't matter what OS is running them.

However, it is not that Macs do anything better, it is just that the package you get from say iMac is better suited for graphics than most configured PCs from the big retailers. Most people don't realize that iMacs come with a H-IPS matrix display which cost about 4-5 times more than a the standard TN+Film display for the same size. These displays provide a great viewing angle, higher color accuracy. If you factor in the display price, the difference in $ between mac and pc disappears. Then again, I think the Mac OS is one of the best modern OS available today with its BSD core subsystem and you don't want your winamp to crash your photoshop while you're editing right? :)

Here is how big the difference is between the H-IPS and TN+Film screens:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG7XNwbUYEM

Cheers,
Georgi

Thank you. You're the first person who responded with actual info regarding why you think Macs are better with graphics. Most others just regurgitate things they've heard (even if they heard them from Mac commercials). I have PCs at home and a Mac Pro at work. I'm a web developer, but I use Photoshop, Flash, Flex Builder and occasionally Illustrator. I don't like the Mac OS, just a personal preference thing as I'm accustomed to Windows. Also, you can't run Visual Studio in OSX, which means I'd have to use Windows anyway. I know that Flash, Flex, Photoshop and Illustrator work identically in OSX and Windows. No performance difference.

My biggest complaint about Macs is the way they rake you over the coals on hardware that's identical to PC hardware. For example, our machines have a pretty lame GeForce 7300 GT video card in them. We've looked into upgrading them only to find that Macs are severely limited in video card choices. You can't just throw in any Nvidia or ATI video card, they have to be Mac models. Note that the Mac models are no different than the PC version, they just have different BIOS. I know a lot of people love to claim that Macs use superior hardware, but it's a complete myth. It's the same hardware, in a shiny case.

Anyway, we can only find 2 video cards we could upgrade to that are made for Macs. One is the GeForce GT 120, which is a rebadged GeForce 9500 GT. I don't know why Nvidia changed the model number for this Mac specific card, but I do know it's the same as the 9500 GT for PCs. For Macs, this card sells for $150. The same card for PCs sells for $65. Again, this is the same hardware made by Nvidia. It's not made of higher quality, and it's not made by Apple. It's not a great card, but it's better than the 7300 GT we're stuck with now. The other option is the ATI 4870, for which Apple wants a whopping $350. You can get the same card for a PC for a mere $155 and get double the RAM on the card to boot. To top it off, that PC version has a lifetime warranty. Here's a case where Apple wants more than double the money for a card with half the RAM of the PC version.

It's not just the exorbitant price that Apple wants for hardware, but it's the severe limitation on upgrade options that irritates me. For PCs, you have hundreds of choices for video card upgrades. For Macs, it's apparently 2 options. That's crazy.

The RAM, hard drives and processor upgrades thankfully are more forgiving as you can use the same hardware PCs use. In fact, Apple does exactly that when building them. I have no idea if you can upgrade the motherboard in a Mac, but I doubt it's nearly as cheap or easy as with a PC. The iMacs have nice screens, but since the machine is built into the monitor I'd imagine upgrading hardware would be very difficult or impossible. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I'd have a lot less to complain about with Macs if they'd simply open up their OS and let you install it on any machine (like Windows/Linux). Obviously they don't want to do that because then who's going to pay $350 for their $155 video cards?
 
Note that the Mac models are no different than the PC version, they just have different BIOS. I know a lot of people love to claim that Macs use superior hardware, but it's a complete myth. It's the same hardware, in a shiny case.

You've missed the point. They are different cards BECAUSE of the BIOS. The reason why, in general, Mac hardware is less prone to crashing is precisely because of the very controlled hardware. They don't have to support some cheap knock-off generic card. In the Macbook and iMac lines, if you compared part by part, spec by spec, there's almost no price delta.

The issue is that Apple doesn't compete at the low end. You can hardly blame them really. They own the >$1000 market.
 
For sheer horsepower I would go with a i7 based windows PC...but you probably don't need it for just photoshop. Being able to use all four processors streamlined for video with a large bank of memory in after affects is a huge win over mac for HD video stuff, everything else about it sucks though (I want FCP!).
 
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