reeftard73
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Anyone local have any mangroves the want to get rid of? If not, I'm gonna pick some up from eBay.
Mangroves?
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Jandree22
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Garry over at Get Tanked Aquariums in Carlisle has a ton of them, but I'm not sure if he actually sells them or if they're just a part of his store's filtration system? Bill might be able to shed some light on this.
http://www.gettankedaquariums.com/i...t.List.Page.File/Home.Product.List.Page...htm
I've seen this becomming more popular lately, is there a particular benefit to mangroves, more so than macroalgaes? Or is it more of the awesomeness factor, because they are pretty friggen sweet
http://www.gettankedaquariums.com/i...t.List.Page.File/Home.Product.List.Page...htm
I've seen this becomming more popular lately, is there a particular benefit to mangroves, more so than macroalgaes? Or is it more of the awesomeness factor, because they are pretty friggen sweet
svynx
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I can't speak from experience, since I don't have any...yet, but from what I've learned from the people that do have mangroves is that they do a much better job than chaeto as long as you keep up with pruning and removing dying leaves. Along with that, I "think" they need a DSB to grow, so you get that as well to help.
reeftard73
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I've read they're the ultimate in nitrate removeal. They're pretty cheap on eBay, so I'll get them there as opposed to "Mr. Pushy" in Carlisle. I've had a bad past experience with that guy and was VERY turned-off by his lack of respect for other's choices. Not a good way to run a business.
Jandree22
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Hm, thanks guys... might have to try some out sometime. Like I said I think the stuff looks awesome anyhow, but if it's supposedly that good in Nitrate removal, all the more tempting.
AMEN brotha! I was reluctant to suggest him, but remember seeing he was involved with mangroves so it was worth a shot. The first time I visited his store was also the last. I appreciate his passion, but you're dead on with respecting others opinions because contrary to his mentality, there is WAY more than one way to skin a cat with this hobby. I've experienced it in person, and I've seen it on forums. I was fortunate at the time of being experienced enough to filter out the "Saltwater Correct" hype, but I fear that many a' beginner hobbiest take his word as gospel.
That and charging $75 for 150g of salt.
< /rant>
reeftard73
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Received a nice PM from Mr.Gettanked stating I'm entitled to my opinion. Thank you Mr.Gettanked, I know I am.
I can tell you, as a consumer, it is a huge turn-off to be told in so many words that your way is the only way, and my way is wrong. While you may feel this way, and I'm sure you do - you're killing your business with such comments and behavior. You need to value your customers, and respect their opinions and respect them as customers.
I can tell you, as a consumer, it is a huge turn-off to be told in so many words that your way is the only way, and my way is wrong. While you may feel this way, and I'm sure you do - you're killing your business with such comments and behavior. You need to value your customers, and respect their opinions and respect them as customers.
reeftard73
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Thanks, Pat!
They say it's important to keep them in the same salinity as where they came from or they leaves will start to shrivel up and fall off, but I know people who have had good success with the red mangroves with normal acclimation... I've heard the white mangrove's are more particular though?
reeftard73
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As far as the leaves go, I'v eheard if they are tended to (sprayed and wiped with fresh water) a couple of times daily, the mangroves shouldn't lose too many leaves, given all the other params for keeping it are in check.
mrgettanked
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reeftard73:
Received a nice PM from Mr.Gettanked stating I'm entitled to my opinion. Thank you Mr.Gettanked, I know I am.
Garry:
I guess you never heard of the old saying about opinions?
reeftard73:
I can tell you, as a consumer, it is a huge turn-off to be told in so many words that your way is the only way, and my way is wrong.
Garry:
Let’s get the facts correct.
This is America and the land of the free!
I do not know where you get off making the above quote of something that is against my philosophy.
You were never told in any amount of words that you were wrong!
I do not tell fellow hobbyist what to do or not to do, because time has all the answers to their discretions of how someone maintains their own aquariums.
If giving someone pro’s and con’s of my 20 plus years of experiences in this hobby is wrong, then I do not want to be right!
reeftard73:
While you may feel this way, and I'm sure you do - you're killing your business with such comments and behavior.
Garry:
I’m a hobbyist first and fore most and then a business man secondly.
My business has been around since “2000†and is growing stronger every day!
reeftard73:
You need to value your customers, and respect their opinions and respect them as customers.
Garry:
Now, look who is calling the kettle black!
This is my last and only response to this subject and to you.
Good luck to everyone and your choices that you make on maintaining your aquarium,
Garry
Received a nice PM from Mr.Gettanked stating I'm entitled to my opinion. Thank you Mr.Gettanked, I know I am.
Garry:
I guess you never heard of the old saying about opinions?
reeftard73:
I can tell you, as a consumer, it is a huge turn-off to be told in so many words that your way is the only way, and my way is wrong.
Garry:
Let’s get the facts correct.
This is America and the land of the free!
I do not know where you get off making the above quote of something that is against my philosophy.
You were never told in any amount of words that you were wrong!
I do not tell fellow hobbyist what to do or not to do, because time has all the answers to their discretions of how someone maintains their own aquariums.
If giving someone pro’s and con’s of my 20 plus years of experiences in this hobby is wrong, then I do not want to be right!
reeftard73:
While you may feel this way, and I'm sure you do - you're killing your business with such comments and behavior.
Garry:
I’m a hobbyist first and fore most and then a business man secondly.
My business has been around since “2000†and is growing stronger every day!
reeftard73:
You need to value your customers, and respect their opinions and respect them as customers.
Garry:
Now, look who is calling the kettle black!
This is my last and only response to this subject and to you.
Good luck to everyone and your choices that you make on maintaining your aquarium,
Garry
gjh289
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I normally don't jump threads from local clubs but I wanted to share my experience with mangroves. Over the past year and a half I have grow more than a hundred from pods. I collect the pods while I'm out fishing or diving as they float around by the thousands.
When I get the seed pods I stick them thru Styrofoam making sure to keep the top side above water. The bottom is just suspended mid water and does not need to be keep in sand, mud......ect. This free floating get the roots to begin to grow and start reaching for the bottom. Again you do not need to bury the roots.
Each day I spray the leaves with fresh water which helps the mangrove discard salt. Mangroves are very hardy and can adjust to several water conditions. Of the hundred or so only three or four failed to produce leaves and thrive. As far as absorbing nitrates they are not really the best unless you have lot and lots of them and they are big. I think most have them because they look awesome and are a topic of conversation.
Make sure you have the proper lighting and provide magnesium as required to keep them green. Other than that they are so simple to grow. As the leaves turn brown they will just fall off and you can pick them right out of the water. You will notice the trees going into shock when you first get them and the leaves usually fall off. Not to worry this is normal. Once they are adjusted to your parameters the leaves will come back. Hope this helps. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask.
When I get the seed pods I stick them thru Styrofoam making sure to keep the top side above water. The bottom is just suspended mid water and does not need to be keep in sand, mud......ect. This free floating get the roots to begin to grow and start reaching for the bottom. Again you do not need to bury the roots.
Each day I spray the leaves with fresh water which helps the mangrove discard salt. Mangroves are very hardy and can adjust to several water conditions. Of the hundred or so only three or four failed to produce leaves and thrive. As far as absorbing nitrates they are not really the best unless you have lot and lots of them and they are big. I think most have them because they look awesome and are a topic of conversation.
Make sure you have the proper lighting and provide magnesium as required to keep them green. Other than that they are so simple to grow. As the leaves turn brown they will just fall off and you can pick them right out of the water. You will notice the trees going into shock when you first get them and the leaves usually fall off. Not to worry this is normal. Once they are adjusted to your parameters the leaves will come back. Hope this helps. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask.
reeftard73
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I'd like to apologize to anyone reading this thread. It was intended tyo be a thread about who locally, if anyone, has mangroves available. I did not intend for this thread to digress into the childish behavior shown above.
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reeftard73
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Excellent feedback. Thanks so much for sharing your observations and experiences!
Mine our 2 years old and are growing good. They grow slow though. Neat to have in the sump and good for exporting but I would not bet the farm on them. Like gjh289 said you need lots and decent sized ones for a lot of exporting. Great conversation piece when someone opens the cabinet to see trees growing underneath the tank.
reeftard73
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Nice.. About how many mangroves per gallon do you keep in your system?
Jandree22
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I got a PM too. In hindsight I must say a few final thoughts... I am genuinely happy for Garry's business in that it is succeeding in this God awful economy. Furthermore, I will concede that while I did not have the best experience, it's best to visit his store for yourself and draw your own experiences... rather than taking it from me. I too apologize to Garry for the childish ranting and everyone else simply for digressing off topic and 'going there'.
Now getting back on subject, great info people! Being as my fuge is in the basement, that'd be annoying to be obligated to run downstairs every evening for a mangrove shower. But the dedicated fuge is 30gal with a DSB, so it's prime real estate. What type of lighting is appropriate/sufficient? Currently using a standard twist daylight CF bulb from Lowes for the chaeto.
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The response from Garry is exactly what I would have expected and is a very accurate portrayal of Get tanked Aquariums IMO. Gary has success and that should not be discounted but so do a lot of others. As I walked out of Garry's store I was left with the feeling that I was wrong and in this hobby his 20 years have taught him that only his way and his products work. I too was very turned off and have not been back. If "saltwater correct" works for you - buy it, if Instant Ocean works for you, well then that is okay too.
