maroon clown and flame dwarf angel
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ACBlinky
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Depends. Are we talking about the 75g or 55g in your signature? If so, I'd say probably not in the long-term. Chances are as the maroon grows, she'll become territorial enough to show aggression towards all her tankmates, and a tiny angel (feisty as they may be) will make an easy target.
I keep my maroon pair separated from all the other fish, in their own tank, because I had a pair of saddlebacks (nearly as nasty as maroons) that started killing off tankmates when they matured. Everything was fine for a time, and then one day they just decided the entire 65g tank belonged to them and everyone else (dwarf angels included) had to go. I don't think I'll ever try to keep maroons or saddlebacks with other fish in anything less than a 6' tank, and don't recommend it to others because of what I experienced. Other people may have had long-term success keeping maroons and angels in a 55g or 75g - if so, and you can replicate anything specific that they're doing in order to make it work, it might be worth a try.
I keep my maroon pair separated from all the other fish, in their own tank, because I had a pair of saddlebacks (nearly as nasty as maroons) that started killing off tankmates when they matured. Everything was fine for a time, and then one day they just decided the entire 65g tank belonged to them and everyone else (dwarf angels included) had to go. I don't think I'll ever try to keep maroons or saddlebacks with other fish in anything less than a 6' tank, and don't recommend it to others because of what I experienced. Other people may have had long-term success keeping maroons and angels in a 55g or 75g - if so, and you can replicate anything specific that they're doing in order to make it work, it might be worth a try.
It sounds like maroon clowns are more aggressive than I thought.
I have various shrimps and some smaller peaceful fish in my 75g and a sf eel in my 55g. When my nitrates finally reach 0 in my 55g (just finished building my sump), I'm going to switch the contents from each tank. I think my sf eel would be happier in the 75g long term. That's where the maroon clown would reside. I'm trying to find tankmates for my eel. It's boring me to look at a pretty much empty tank. I love the eel, but he just hides with his head out until feeding time. I'd like something swimming around in there. I was going to get a lionfish, but changed my mind finding out how large they get. I can't find any dwarf species I'm happy with.
Any other suggestions for additions to a 75g that houses a sf eel and a maroon clown or am I limited with that type of clown?
Thanks
I have various shrimps and some smaller peaceful fish in my 75g and a sf eel in my 55g. When my nitrates finally reach 0 in my 55g (just finished building my sump), I'm going to switch the contents from each tank. I think my sf eel would be happier in the 75g long term. That's where the maroon clown would reside. I'm trying to find tankmates for my eel. It's boring me to look at a pretty much empty tank. I love the eel, but he just hides with his head out until feeding time. I'd like something swimming around in there. I was going to get a lionfish, but changed my mind finding out how large they get. I can't find any dwarf species I'm happy with.
Any other suggestions for additions to a 75g that houses a sf eel and a maroon clown or am I limited with that type of clown?
Thanks
JasonColtsFan
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This makes a great question. I currently have a dog face puffer (2.5 inches), coral beauty angel (2 inches) and harliquin tusk (1.5 inches). I was planning to add two small marron clowns in about 3 more weeks follwed by a junv emperor angel....
having the coral beauty would marron clowns not be a good choice? If not, then what type of clown (if any) would you add? I know the puffer, wrasse and Emperor Angel will all be fairly large fish...
having the coral beauty would marron clowns not be a good choice? If not, then what type of clown (if any) would you add? I know the puffer, wrasse and Emperor Angel will all be fairly large fish...
acrylic_300
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Read up on the pairing of Maroon Clowns before hand....it's a little different than other clowns.
I have a Flame living in the same tank as two Maroons...but it's 300gal. and the flame was there first.
The only fish the maroons hate are the blue/green chromis.
I have a Flame living in the same tank as two Maroons...but it's 300gal. and the flame was there first.
The only fish the maroons hate are the blue/green chromis.
Mine don't mind the chromis so much, but absolutely detest the yellow tailed blue damselfish. What's very strange is that neither of my maroons give a second thought to my lawnmower blenny, which nearly lives in my LTA. Evidently the stings that the blenny gets aren't enough to bother it. I also have a mature flame angel, and neither the angel or the clowns show any aggression towards one another. The clowns have quite a bit of growing to do yet, the female is about 3" and the male around 2".
ReefNeck
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The info in here is opposite of all my experiences. I have a mated pair of Maroons in a 75G (Was a solo female for 2 years till I mated her with a friend a month ago) and they reside with a Yellow Tang, Gobies, Blennies, Chromis and even a Yellow Damsel. Never has the female (Named Coral) bothered a soul. She lives in her BTA now with her mate and chases no others ever.
Also, In my 120 I have a mated pair of Gold Stripped Maroons and same thing.....Never any aggresion toward any other fish including tangs, wrasses and many others.
Odd that there seem to be so many problems.
Also, In my 120 I have a mated pair of Gold Stripped Maroons and same thing.....Never any aggresion toward any other fish including tangs, wrasses and many others.
Odd that there seem to be so many problems.
ACBlinky
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I don't think it's as odd as it seems - I saw a very peaceful pair of GSMs living in a situation I would never imagine working (in close quarters with a pair of cardinals and a pair of skunk clowns), but they weren't full grown, and they had a host (carpet nem). I can't speak to their behaviour as full-grown adults, but they were unusually gentle even for their size - they probably got a little more territorial with age, but I doubt these particular fish grew into nightmares.
My experience is that when clowns mature they can become suddenly territorial, even if they were fairly peaceful when younger, but this might not be the case with all pairs. My current maroons would be a bad pair to try and mix with anything else - they won't tolerate a person coming too close to the tank, and a hand in the water is just asking for an all-out assault, so I wouldn't dream of trying to put them with another fish. I've only had them since July, but I'm their third or fourth owner - the last owner had them in a 75g and they were behaving aggressively, so he decided to give them up. The other owner(s) had similar experiences AFAIK.
Bottom line, maroons can be vicious fish (they'll even attack divers in the wild). If you're lucky enough to get a quiet pair that are happy living with other fish, enjoy the experience; many of us out there with 'typical' maroons love them to death, but we'd like them to tone it down a bit
My experience is that when clowns mature they can become suddenly territorial, even if they were fairly peaceful when younger, but this might not be the case with all pairs. My current maroons would be a bad pair to try and mix with anything else - they won't tolerate a person coming too close to the tank, and a hand in the water is just asking for an all-out assault, so I wouldn't dream of trying to put them with another fish. I've only had them since July, but I'm their third or fourth owner - the last owner had them in a 75g and they were behaving aggressively, so he decided to give them up. The other owner(s) had similar experiences AFAIK.
Bottom line, maroons can be vicious fish (they'll even attack divers in the wild). If you're lucky enough to get a quiet pair that are happy living with other fish, enjoy the experience; many of us out there with 'typical' maroons love them to death, but we'd like them to tone it down a bit
ReefNeck
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I am not saying that they are not mean little buggers at all. They are. Mating them is near impossible at times and countless "small" maroons have been killed when an aquarists tries to make a pair. (I have not killed one yet. I am through mating maroons though because my time left in this hobby is extremely limited.)
"Coral" (The female I mentioned) Used to bite my wife's hand when she had it in the tank so there is aggression.
Also, I would NEVER put any other type of clownfish in with a maroon. They will almost certainly kill it. That said, I have not personally tried it and won't!
I just got lucky on the last 4 pairs of maroons I guess. I sold one pair when I sold my 12G Nano and sold another pair outright when I took a tank down.
"Coral" (The female I mentioned) Used to bite my wife's hand when she had it in the tank so there is aggression.
Also, I would NEVER put any other type of clownfish in with a maroon. They will almost certainly kill it. That said, I have not personally tried it and won't!
I just got lucky on the last 4 pairs of maroons I guess. I sold one pair when I sold my 12G Nano and sold another pair outright when I took a tank down.
sirjohn
Feeding Frenzied
Is it a regular maroon or a gold-stripped? From my experience, gold-stripped maroons appear to be a little less aggressive.
Be careful if it is a regular maroon with colors similar to the flame angel (more orange than "maroon"). I have had a an orange maroon clown harass, attack and eventually kill a flame angel in a 90 gallon with PLENTY of space. I also think--but obviously have no scientific proof to back this up--that maroons and other clowns have different "personalities" and some are simply more docile than others.
Good luck.
Be careful if it is a regular maroon with colors similar to the flame angel (more orange than "maroon"). I have had a an orange maroon clown harass, attack and eventually kill a flame angel in a 90 gallon with PLENTY of space. I also think--but obviously have no scientific proof to back this up--that maroons and other clowns have different "personalities" and some are simply more docile than others.
Good luck.
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