Micro-bubbles issue, look at the picture please help

Viajeque

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Look at the picture of my sump. I added a bunch of sponges in my bubble trap as you can see and I still have-micro bubbles on my main display. I even put filter socks on the output of my skimmer. What can I do? Thanks!
 

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What kinda return is that? How many gph?

Tehnically you don't need that last baffle. You have such a high flowrate thru your sump that the last baffle is the one making bubbles when he water falls. Those little bubbles then get sucked up thru your monster return pump and gets pulverized to tiny micro bubbles in your sump.

Ps your first chamber has way too much water. It practically makes water shoot out over the last baffle.
 
630 gallons/min, should I get a slower one? I have 4 ft from my return pump to my overflow box. Its a RIO 12 hf

You are right about the bubbles sucked by the return pump but that's not the case here, the big bubbles dont get sucked and if I add more water I do not have that problem. The micro-bubbles come all the way from the skimmer through the sump and they pass through the sponges and then to the main display. Thanks for the advises.
 
This is an updated picture. The bubbles come from the skimmer chamber through the sponges and through the return pump
 

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First isolate and find out if it's really your skimmer. Turn he skimmer off for a few hours and see if it helps any. If so then it's your skimmer. If the setup is really new then this will happen. Wait a few weeks and it should stop.

If you still have microbubbles with the skimmer off then it's something with your setup. I would remove all that foam though. Unless you plan on cleaning it often it will get clogged and could possibly overflow your sump.

You can already see water backed up in the fuge chamber. The water level should only be about where that first baffle is. Not all the way up like that.

I'm not sure if I can post this but Houston has a local reefclub. Www.marshreef.com

Post your problem there, I'm sure a lot of over houstonians are willing to help.
 
Thats a great advise, Thanks. But unfortunately I have tried that already. I guess it is my system and not the skimmer. What can I do is this situation? Maybe the return pump being 630 gph is too much?
 
How long has your system been running sometimes new plumbing can cause this and it will go away as the pipes are broke in.
 
The sump...around 1 month. Adding a bubble trap baffle in the protein skimmer chamber and maybe filter socks to the input from my overflow box would help? I noticed some micro organism when I turned off the flow, what are those? copepods?
 
ill tell you what man i know exactly what will stop those bubbles. i did the same thing as you and i tried using different filter media etc and the bubbles still got thru. UNTIL i got the filter block from eshopps and this thing is amazing man it stopped ALL BUBBLES hitting my return pump.the filter block is dense enough to stop the bubbles but not to dense to where it stops water flow to much. ill try to find you that filter block :)
 
~600 is fine for a 90.

I had a similar design in my 30g sump that I ran with an Eheim 1260 return (skimmer-> fuge -> return. I only had three baffles, however. My skimmer chamber had a baffle that went all the way to the top of the tank, then one low baffle right after. My fuge was separated from the return with a baffle the same height as my second baffle. Microbubbles appeared occasionally, but that was only when my skimmer was going nuts.
 
Yeah I have an extra piece of glass. I am planning to add a baffle to the skimmer chamber, I have the same idea running it all the way to the top but which side should have the baffle the fuge side or the skimmer sub? Thanks
 
I had a snail stuck in my return once, and that caused my micro-bubbles. So check your returns to make sure nothing is stuck in their
 
At was told at my LFS to put a pitcher with holes at the bottom and live rock all the way up, put a sponge at top and have my overflow input at the top of the pitcher. That did help a lot. I also put a filter sock on my skimmer output which helped a lot to. Now I realize my only source of micro-bubbles left is my emperor 400 power filter, I put a timer to it so it will only work at nights. Any thoughts to fix this? If I get a canister filter would that work better than the emperor 400? or should I just get rid of the emperor and just use my skimmer? Thanks in advance!
 
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