more than 2 nems in a 29gallon sps tank

[brandon7491]

.... taht is a little bit to the extreme reefnewby taht they might end up without anemones.. i was never intending the argument or n e thing of that kind of measure. i have thanked slakker numerous times for his input on this matter. but u say the reefs are endanger, then y are we even doing this hobby? we should dump our coral,fish,invers,ect back into the ocean. u are jsut as guilty as me for keeping any marine animal if our reefs are endanger. obviously they are not that endanger because we are keeping them in glass boxes.

 

[Slakker]

Brandon,
Our reefs are in danger. Our whole ecosystem is in danger. Those are the facts. I'm not going to go in depth on this, but there has been some research in the past couple of years revealing that many of the reefs around the world have had a decline in growth and overall health.

Whether you believe in global warming or not, the oceans are getting warmer, and the higher temperatures are causing corals to bleach in many of our reefs. This site has a very simple glance at some of what is endangering the world's reefs, broken down location by location: http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/blue-planet/map/map.html

Look, I'm not saying you're a bad person for keeping a reef tank. That's ridiculous. This hobby has actually led to a lot of discoveries that have been helpful in conservation efforts. What I am saying is, why take a long shot trying something that has been previously unsuccessful when you could do it right the first time? At 16, I didn't think much about the future either, but the sad truth is, it doesn't look great for our coral reefs.

I will say that my fish are captive bred and my corals are all fragged off of already captive colonies, so my tank is fairly low impact as far as that goes.

 

[Toddrtrex]

Couple of things,

I would not keep a BTA ( of any color ) in an SPS tank, I am in the process of removing my BTAs from my tank --- they will sting and kill SPS. And they will move when you least expect it and/or clone and the clone will move.

You say that your water parameters are perfect, I would like to see the actual numbers, please.

I noticed film on the top of your water in one of the pictures, might want to point a powerhead towards the surface to break it up, or get one of those skimmer boxes for your skimmer.

Now, for getting a 3rd anemone for that tank, I personally think that is not the best idea. There is chance that there is some chemical warfare going on b/t the sebea and the BTA right now, think it would be a bad idea to add to the stress that the sebea is currently under.

Anemones add to the bioload to a tank, and with the amount that you are feeding yours I see water quality issues in the future, and some will be hard to test for -- DOCs come to mind.

The sebea will get too large for a 29 -- years ago I had one that was over 18" across, took up a third of my 75.

Now, if you have your mind set on getting the 3rd one, at least wait until the sebea is healthy.

 

[brandon7491]

salinity 1.025,phos-0,nitrate-0,nitrite-0, ph 8.2,ca 415,alk 10.5,magnesium 1350,amonia-0. i have decieded on not getting a 3rd anemone i will continue to stock my tank with zoos and save up for a geo calcium reactor. tomorrow i will get a tunze nano stream and point a maxi jet at the top of the water to get the film off. thankyou for all ur advices

 

[brandon7491]

also will a nem sting and kill a soft coral or can the both co exsist?

 

[cartman5579]

brandon, you took all of that like a champ... i'm so proud of you! ... some of these guys can really beat you up.

 

[Slakker]

Sounds like a good plan to me. When stocking with zoos and the like, be mindful of the anemones and try to give them a buffer zone to avoid any stinging battles. (I'm sure you know that.)

Pointing the powerhead at the top of the water will help some, but another thing that can really help is skimming from the top when you do a water change. To do this I use a cup held just barely below the surface so that the top water and the surface film flows into the cup to be discarded. I've also used a paper towel to absorb it. Seems to work pretty good...for a couple days, anyways...lol

 

[Toddrtrex]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11146578#post11146578 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by brandon7491
also will a nem sting and kill a soft coral or can the both co exsist?

Take this the right way, that is too general of a question. And what I mean by that, is that it depends on both the anemone type and the soft coral type. So, if you have specific ones in mind, that would help. I can assume the either your Sebea or your BTA, but what type of soft coral.

I can only speak for my experiences, most times the anemone will sting/kill the soft coral. Though I do remember a time when my BTA was affected by a soft coral. I wish I could remember the soft coral, but it was years ago and my memory isn't as great as it used to by.

And BTW, good choice on holding off on the anemone.

When I mentioned getting a surface skimmer box for your skimmer I was referring to this

NOTE---- check this whole page since I don't know which pump you have with it, about half way down the page.

 

[Reefynewby]

ah... JOY to the world, and feel proud of yourself. Go buy yourself an icy cold one, and enjoy. Anemones will - in general, sting and most likely kill anything they can touch over time - so it's a good mind to give them plenty of space to near corals. especially sps

 

[Slakker]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11146731#post11146731 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Reefynewby
Go buy yourself an icy cold one, and enjoy.

A cold juice box, you mean? Maybe some milk?

 

[Reefynewby]

oh my bad, you're right slakker. I have some caprisun's here for you if ya want brandon?

 

[brandon7491]

i also have good news, today at 6:45 my buddy came over and picked up the sebae anemone. he has a 215gallon tank with mh's and good water conditions. ehh na not caprisun but some juicy juice. n e ways im going to a lfs today ima leave school around 145 and skip my 8th period class. probably gonna get some clams to fill in the space where the sebae was

 

[Reefynewby]

-.-"

i HOPE you've done your research about clams. Just remember, they're difficult to keep, and belong in the sand bed...:rolleye1:

 

[cartman5579]

maximas do not belong in the sand bed!

 

[brandon7491]

neither do croceas =-)

 

[Slakker]

Did you end up getting a clam? Any pics?

I'm glad to hear that the Sebae went to a new home. Sounds like a good arrangement for both your tank inhabitants and the Sebae. Now that BTA has a little more room to grow without competition from that other anemone.

I haven't done as much research on clams as I have anemones, but I do know that they're very cool creatures. Best of luck with it.

 

[brandon7491]

today i go get one at my lfs

 

[Toygrr]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11131451#post11131451 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by cartman5579
i'm going to get flamed for saying this, but...

Do whatever floats your boat. I mean if the two you already have are doing well, and you have "room" for another one, than do what you want. Everyone has different experiences than everyone else. But, by saying that i don't think you should let anything die because of what you want, but i wouldn't say you can't try it. If they thrive, than great for you, but if they don't take whatever you have to out of the tank and trade it in or sell it instead of letting it die. And like you said, you have another tank to set up if they get bigger. Have fun with the hobby, just don't let things die do to the fact that you wanted it in there.

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