Mounting rics and zoas????

Chris,
I can usually glue loose zoas. Rics and other shrooms I put in a cup with some rubble for a while to get them to attach. They slime too much to glue.
 
Use super glue gel. Also, you have to glue them outside of the water. I have not had luck gluing the rics to rocks inside the tank. The gel will set as soon as its hits the water and will not stick.
 
I second DMBillies. Rics and shrooms are easiest to deal with if they attach to some rubble and then you can glue that. I have also sometimes poked a toothpick through them and strapped the toothpick to a small piece of rock with a rubber band. You can then remove the toothpick later after the ric has attached.
 
You can also put Rics and shrooms inside of a sea shell. This way it kinda acts like a cup and rubble all in one. Once its attached, you can bust the shell up with some pliers if you dont want a sea shell on your sand bed.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11933646#post11933646 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DMBillies
Chris,
I can usually glue loose zoas. Rics and other shrooms I put in a cup with some rubble for a while to get them to attach. They slime too much to glue.


do you glue the ric's outside the tank and let it dry outside the tank??? How about frogspawn... same way?? glue and let dry outside the tank? How long can I leave the frogspawn and ric's stay outside the water without killing it.
 
Little tip from an RC guy who built a few too many balsa models...

Glue your frag with the thick CA, then put a teeny tiny bit of baking soda right there on the glue. This will make the glue set instantly, and you can stick in the water immediately. No waiting to dry. Chuck
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11936677#post11936677 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by c_stowers
You can also put Rics and shrooms inside of a sea shell. This way it kinda acts like a cup and rubble all in one. Once its attached, you can bust the shell up with some pliers if you dont want a sea shell on your sand bed.

That sounds great, but how specifically? Do you just drop a small mushroom into a larger shell? How do you keep it from floating out?

I tried to take the easy route, and failed, by directly using superglue on the base of some red mushrooms. I carefully dried the central base by dabbing gently with a cloth to get beyond the mucous before applying the glue. They stuck for at least 8 hours, but had disappeared by the next morning.

These links may be useful:

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1301982&highlight=mushrooms+attach

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1320842&highlight=mushrooms+attach
 
As mentioned, we've always had good luck with the rubble in a shot glass route thus far. Some take longer than others to attach and we've even had one or two attach themselves to the glass rather than the rubble which means you just scrape it off and start over, making sure that it's in the center of the glass during round two. The only drawback to this is that you get crap settling down in the glasses since there is no water circulating inside which isn't good for the coral...

We've tried drying things in hopes of them sticking and it's never worked - the slime seeps out from under the glue and it slides right off. We use the toothpick or string method with the softies like devil's hand and xenia with great success as well. Never tried it with any mushrooms yet though.

As far as gluing in vs. out of the water, I think it's a general rule to always glue outside because as soon as your glue tube is submerged, you pretty much have shot yourself in the foot. However, on that note, everyone has a different method as to how to get the glue to dry fastest, what works best, the type of glue, etc. We just put a blob of glue on the rock, stick the frag down on it, dip for a few seconds, then pivot the frag in the glue which breaks the film that forms when the water touches the glue, allowing the underneath glue to seep out making the bond stronger. Then we pretty much hold the frag in the water, repeat the process a few times, and make sure it's stuck tight before we place it where we want it in the tank. If it doesn't stick the first time, start over. It also helps to find a spot on the rock where the frag naturally wants to nook in before you glue it...

Best of luck finding your own technique and happy gluing! :)
 
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