My Blue Spotted Boxfish.

Western_reefer

Reef keeper
Just thought I'd share a few pictures of my Juvi Male Blue Spotted Boxfish. Before you start flamin, YES, I did LOTS of research before I bought him. Hes been acting like hes been in the tank forever, swimming out in the open, pecking at the rocks, ect, ect. Hes still a juvi and is now just starting to get his adult male colors. :dance: He is in a 180 gallon mixed reef and doesn't touch a thing and eats like a fat pig! Hes a little skinny because I got him from the LFS a few days ago but hes getting fatter and fatter as the days go by.
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I always loved the males of these boxfish (looks like you got a female.) But I always felt like it was playing russian roulette with my tank. Best of luck with yours. :)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15503739#post15503739 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by barnett8
I always loved the males of these boxfish (looks like you got a female.) But I always felt like it was playing russian roulette with my tank. Best of luck with yours. :)
Juvi Blue Spotted Box fish look 100% the same as an adult female Blue Spotted Box fish. My Blue Spotted Box fish is a juvi male and is now getting his adult male colors.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15504300#post15504300 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by fishkid6692
really cool fish! how big is he? and how big do they get?
Thanks! I'd say hes a good 3-3.5 inches long from the tip of its mouth to the tip of its tail. They get 7-8 inches when fully grown.
 
Here's a picture of a pair. I guess from looking at the picture if the female is transitioning to a male you should start to see some blue forming on the side and face.

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I must agree it's a bit on the skinny side from looking at the side where it's sunken in.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15505030#post15505030 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by flameangel88
Here's a picture of a pair. I guess from looking at the picture if the female is transitioning to a male you should start to see some blue forming on the side and face.

SolomonIslandsBlueBoxfishpair3to5in.jpg


I must agree it's a bit on the skinny side from looking at the side where it's sunken in.
Yeah, I know. Its still a juvi and I am seeing it starting to form some gold and blue on its face and sides. That's why I said above that he is just starting to get his adult male colors. You can't really tell in the pictures but you can easily see the gold and blue in person. Yeah, I'm feeding him lots. Hes MUCH MUCH fatter in the pictures that I posted above than when he was at the LFS.
 
I got a hole shrimp, tied it to a string and put it in the water column and he would eat it every time he swims by it. :) Hes munching on the shrimp as I'm typing. :dance:
 
Oh.. Because from the photo it is not really clear.. I normally find females but they are quite small.. like 2 inches? Is there any possibility that 1 will turn into male if I buy a few?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15505176#post15505176 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Terryz_
Oh.. Because from the photo it is not really clear.. I normally find females but they are quite small.. like 2 inches? Is there any possibility that 1 will turn into male if I buy a few?
Yeah, the photo isn't the best. Did you research about these Box fish? Here is a quote from one of the pages that I was reading.

"This boxfish is sexually dichromatic. Juveniles and females are brown or black with white spots. Males are blue with white spot with yellow lines on the dorsal surface. Like its cousins, it is best housed with non-aggressive tankmates. If housed with aggressive feeders, it may have trouble competing for food. It is possible to keep more than one in the same tank (especially young individuals), but adult males may quarrel. It will not usually bother other fishes. It is a larger boxfish that will need lots of open swimming space. This species has been known to "nuke" an entire tank of fishes. This occurs most often when the fish is stressed; therefore, it is wise to remove sources of stress (e.g., aggressive tankmates) if necessary. Make sure you do not keep it with fishes that will pick on it and remove it immediately if it looks as though it may die. (They sometimes release lethal amounts of their body slime when they die.) This species is susceptible to Cryptocaryon and Lymphocystis. It is best not to house it with cleaner wrasses, as these wrasses will incessantly chase and try to clean them. "






Here is another quote:

"The bluespotted boxfish is a beautiful fish that is not really suited for a marine aquarium unless you are willing to devote a tank to it. This fish is well known for releasing a poison, called ostracitoxin, if it is under any stress; this can quickly kill an entire tank of fish, including the boxfish itself. Its beauty merits a species tank, however. The male has the blue spots on its sides, while the female arise uniformly brown with white spots. You can keep a single male, single female or a pair -- just don't try to keep two males together.

In addition to its nasty habit of occasionally poisoning its tank, bluespotted boxfish can be difficult to feed. Because it is usually not fed while in transit from the wild to the local fish store (which can take weeks), sometimes it just doesn't start eating again. Before you purchase one make sure that you see it eating heartily. It may require live food to start with in the form of enriched live brine shrimp, guppies or mollies or other live fish. It also requires vegetable matter, and it will scrape at algae in a tank, but should also be offered any of the frozen foods made especially for herbivores. Needless to say, the bluespotted boxfish is not at all suitable for a reef tank, as it would consider everything in the tank in terms of corals, shrimps, crabs and algae as being part of its personal dining cart."



If your up for the challenge and know that there is a chance in it nuking your tank, your more than welcome to keep some. Just be sure you know what your getting yourself into.
 
I am aware of the requirement and risk.. But have been trying to find small sized male(Which i think is difficult) and male are of a different price from the female(on my side)... So was toying with the idea of getting 2-3 small blue spot and hoping that 1 will morph to male.. But I am not sure what is the size that will confirm their sex and is it predetermined when they are Juv...
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15505340#post15505340 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Terryz_
I am aware of the requirement and risk.. But have been trying to find small sized male(Which i think is difficult) and male are of a different price from the female(on my side)... So was toying with the idea of getting 2-3 small blue spot and hoping that 1 will morph to male.. But I am not sure what is the size that will confirm their sex and is it predetermined when they are Juv...
Ok. You will never find a male juvi as you can't tell until they start to morph. You can get a bunch of juvi box fish. Just make sure you don't keep 2 males together too long and remove one if there are 2 males. Good luck and be sure to post pictures and send me the link!
 
Well, being sexually dimorphic wouldn't have any bearing (I don't think) as to their gender development. I couldn't find any mention of it on Fish Base, but I have never seen anything that stated that boxfish could change genders.
 
Bad news on my boxfish--the remaining female died couple of weeks ago with no advance sign of problem. It was eating frozen and pellets very well for the past 11 months under my care and definitely didn't see this coming. I didn't even noticed it dead til I saw the skimmer was foaming like crazy in the morning. It must have released toxin overnight as I lost very nice pairs of Sunrise & Wrasse basslets. When the male died last October it didn't release any toxins and I read somewhere that after keeping boxfish in the aquarium for a while its possible they lose the toxin from their system and I took my guards off.

I highly recommend to anyone keeping/ or planning on keeping boxfish to run charcoal in their filtration system. The fishes that survived this event were Cubicus boxfish, Mappa, blenny, Scribbled angel, and triggers.


Western reefer--how's your boxfish doing?
 
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