My Experience with the Zeovit system

JayVIP

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Being the person that I am, I always do tons of research before diving into any long term commitments. I try to be patient and make sure I know as much as I can. It was difficult to find first hand knowledge on the system and even more so it was difficult to find before and after pictures of tanks running the system because the changes are fairly slow. So with that being said, I'm going to document my progress on reef central to share my knowledge and experience.

If you don't know about Zeovit, you can search for it on bing or google. The basic jist of it is utilizing a media reactor with media that removes ammonia thus preventing the nitrification process which eventually leads to undetectable levels of phosphate and nitrate, creating what they call ULNS or ultra low nutrient system. The drawback of the concept is that it strips the system of nutrients so well, you have to supplement the system with things you wouldn't normally have to with the berlin system. Here's a quick pro and cons list. Now this is specifically for the Zeovit system. I can't speak on behalf of other systems out there but there are several systems that have the same concept but they are different.

PROS:
* Corals, especially SPS, love the ULNS. The color and polyp extension is unrivaled by any other system
* In theory, water changes are still required, but only 5-10% weekly because you would only be doing water changes to replace the trace elements.
* Increased coral growth and vitality
* Super stable system once established
* I no longer have to use phosphate media
* I no longer need a refugium

CONS:
* The media reactors are fairly bulky
* The dosing schedule is strict with little room for laziness
* It's fairly costly
* You have to run carbon 100% of the time
* It's a sloooow process
* The system is compatible only with Zeovit brand products and cannot be mix and matched.

So I purchased the starter kit from bulkreefsupply for just under $300. Comes with the basic necessities you need to create the ULNS. After ULNS levels is established, you can then use additional additives for your specific system such as sps growth and color accelerators.

Bulkreefsupply didn't have the footprint measurements so I had to scour the internet for them. I came up with some numbers that appeared to work perfectly with the size of my refugium so I went ahead and ordered the kit with the nice 1.5L vertex reactor.

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Packaging was awesome and I was immediately impressed by the quality of the vertex product. It appears to be inline with the Vertex Alpha line keeping true to the red and white theme. Everything was great except the foot print wasn't what I found on the other site and it turned out the reactor would not fit in the space I wanted it to. So I had to get to work and do a little modification.

The piping on the tube is smaller than US sized PVC so I had to do a bit of sanding down to get it to work for what I wanted it to do. I found that the output on the reactor was in a terrible place for the space I wanted to place the reactor so I had to either get a new sump or figure something out. I found that If I revamped the output on the reactor I can barely squeeze it in. So that's what I ended up doing. I had to throw in an extra elbow to move it over.

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So you can see in the picture the compartment is tight and I had to bring the output over the wall of the sump and then bring it down away from everything else. It works fine. And no more refugium!

Ok that's pretty much it for now. I will take a start of system shot tomorrow when the lights come back on and I will update my progress.

Just for information purposes, my dosing schedule for the first two weeks is extensive but it tapers off as you progress more into the system. Eventually it will be dosing of two items every three days and one item needs to be dosed in small amounts everyday.
 
Jay,

I was also interested in the ZeoVit system. I have asked around at a couple of LFS and heard mixed reviews about the system, much akin to everything else in the hobby.

I was thoroughly impressed however by the tanks that I saw @ zeovit.com forums section. It seems there is a lot of good information there, and the people behind ZeoVit the brand are very active on the board helping with dosing schedules and the nuances of the systems.

After thorough research myself, I concluded that the system truly lives on the ragged edge of an incredibly healthy system vs. a system with major headaches (i.e. uncontrollable cyanobacteria outbreaks). To me, albeit having no experience with the system, it is a "tinkerers' delight." A more scientific approach to the hobby as well, which I thought was very interesting as it opened up a new variable for reef keeping.

I like all things "contrarian" and this system seems to fit my personality well, as I do believe that this system should be matched to a persons style of husbandry and what they want out of the hobby. That being said, the cost and the maintenance, along with the ever growing list of supplements to be purchase has kept me wary of the system.

I do like the science behind the system, but not the price tag and the "held hostage" aspect of only being able to use Korallen-Zuchts products.

There is no denying however the unreal tanks that I see on the zeovit website! Good luck, I have subscribed and keep us updated. I would love to hear more about your experience.
 
I have subscribed too. I also considered Zeo system but change my mind due to same reasons. Plus I feel uncomfortable if I don't know what exactly I'm putting in my tank. Keep us posted!
 
white balance is not right on phones. You pretty much stuck with it unless there is a app that does proper white balance.
 
I would echo danil. I am attracted to the system, especially after looking atthe tanks that claim to be that way because of Zeovit. I just wish they would give us a hint as to what they are using. I'm not asking forthe formula. I fear that i'll be paying for something that can be accomplished with vodka dosing and Selcon.
 
Hello,

Interesting topic for me because I plan to start my tank also ZEOvit.

I will follow your story carefully so even if I do not control your language very well (I'm French).
 
I think we would like to know your current system better before you start converting it to Zeo. Can you give us some details? Your current water parameters... what test kit you use, dosing, feeding, general setup etc. It would be great to compare before and after.
 
Here's an update. Been working for a few months to get my parameters closer to natural sea water. Im pretty sure the majority of people on here run elevated levels just because most of the premium salt we purchase has elevated levels.

Levels I was running before Zeovit:
Alk: 10.5
CA: 460
MG: 1360

Over the course of three months I slowly brought down my levels to this and then proceeded to convert the system to Zeovit

Alk: 7.4
CA: 420
MG:1310

Im now into day three and I don't notice much of a difference. It was a fairly seemless transition. The biggest changes will be at two weeks and then again at four weeks.
So I now run about .4L of zeovit media on a 3hr on/off cycle. I dose 4 drops of Ecobak once a day and .2ml of Zeostart twice a day, morning and night. I don't currently dose zeofood and I would only recommend dosing zeofood if the tank is fairly new. My tank has been running for 1.5 years now and dont find the need to feed the tank at the moment. Once a day, I agitate the zeovit media with the pull rod on the reactor. If everything goes according to plan, I'll continue this dosing schedule for two weeks total, then reduce the dosing to twice a week. After four weeks, I'll replace half the media and bump up the total volume of media to .75L.
 
Hello,
seems like you have it all covered :) just be sure that the flow through the reactor does not exceed the recommendations :)
 
I think we would like to know your current system better before you start converting it to Zeo. Can you give us some details? Your current water parameters... what test kit you use, dosing, feeding, general setup etc. It would be great to compare before and after.

Sorry Danil, just saw this. Here's specs of my current system.

100g display tank, 36g sump
Lighting: 98 3w cree leds various colors, custom build
Filtration: Warner Marine MF-161 Skimmer, refugium with macro algae, TLF phosban reactor
Return Pump and flow: eheim 1261, 2 koralia 1400, 1 koralia 1050, Vortech mp40wes
All controlled by reefkeeper.

Since starting the zeovit system, I had to take my refugium offline and phosban offline because it isn't recommended so instead, I run carbon in the reactor. Carbon is required to be run 100% of the time and should be changed every 30 days.

Dosing is controlled by my bubble magus doser. It's currently set to 45ML of CA and ALK, and 25ML of MG 4 times daily at various times. I only use Salifert test kits. Fish are fed twice daily mixing between mysis shrimp, brine shrimp, veggie pellets, meaty pellets, and cyclopeeze.

Any other questions?
 
Hello,
seems like you have it all covered :) just be sure that the flow through the reactor does not exceed the recommendations :)

Yep. I have the union turned about 1/2 way closed. I have no real way of measuring the flow through the reactor but it seems to be fine.
 
Yep. I have the union turned about 1/2 way closed. I have no real way of measuring the flow through the reactor but it seems to be fine.

take a 1 L container, and measure how many seconds it takes to fill that up with the output of the reactor.

then you can simply divide 3600 seconds by the number of seconds it takes to fill it up, and you get LPH :)

multiple LPH number by 0.2641 to get the GPH :)

also regarding GAC ... if you use it active in a reactor, you should use half the recommended amount, for 15 days. if you use it passive in a filter bag in sump, or on top of the media in reactor, then you can use full amount and exchange monthly :)

just wanted to make sure you take the most advantage of the system :)

good luck and looking forward to seeing pics of your reef in 6 months when in the final phases.
 
Thanks for updates! Do you have your Nitrate and Phosphate values before and after? I think that would be interesting to see since Zeo has to take to down to undetectable level. Though Salifert test kit isn't really good for measuring low level of phosphates still you can see the difference (I'm guessing here).
 
yah, doesnt measure organic phosphate really well. PO4 was undetectable, and Nitrate was 0-0.5ppm so it was already very low.
 
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