I have been loosing mushrooms in my new system. The tank is 4 months new, SG 1.023. Temp - 80* The shrooms 1 by 1 are turning into brown waste. I have noticed that Im losing purple flowers that covered a rock. They are melting away too. I found out my system was a bit low on Iodine. I have been adding with lugols. Looking for info from the RC community Thanks in advance.
My Mushrooms are Melting away -- ?WHY?
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JMCAquarium
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Do you have any shrooms left ??? If so get the them out of there ASAP. Once one shroom starts the "melting" condition then the rest that are touching it or near by will begin melting as well. What you are seeing in short terms, them turning themselves inside out do to some trauma or server stress. I went on a week long vacation and one of my korila's had moved little aiming straight at a 30 head count purple disco shroom colony. Some let go and floated about my tank. So that left about 20 on the rock one of them started to "melt" at this point the babysitter realized there was something wrong and move the korilla back where it was suppose to be.....she contacted me and inform me something was eating my shrooms. Well, for three days I tried to figure out what would eat my shrooms as I've QTed everything from the rocks to the corals there is nothing and surely I would have seen something over the past three years mowing down my shrooms.
what had happened after I got home to a barren rock with only two feather dusters on it. Was the one shroom that turned it self inside out started eating away at it's neighbors which spread to the next then to the next.
The best thing to do once one shroom starts to "melt" do not give it the chance to survive nor recover. If it is truly melting and not just stressing out it is a goner for sure and that is no reason to keep it and risk polluting the tank further siphon it out of there if you can remove the rock it's on and scrub it off even better.
Kind of like putting 30 people into a small room split one of them open and toss their stomach acid onto the guy next to you then have him busting on to the guy next to him etc etc they will all melt and die sooner or later unless you get them apart and in clean areas.
Pics would help a great deal as well
what had happened after I got home to a barren rock with only two feather dusters on it. Was the one shroom that turned it self inside out started eating away at it's neighbors which spread to the next then to the next.
The best thing to do once one shroom starts to "melt" do not give it the chance to survive nor recover. If it is truly melting and not just stressing out it is a goner for sure and that is no reason to keep it and risk polluting the tank further siphon it out of there if you can remove the rock it's on and scrub it off even better.
Kind of like putting 30 people into a small room split one of them open and toss their stomach acid onto the guy next to you then have him busting on to the guy next to him etc etc they will all melt and die sooner or later unless you get them apart and in clean areas.
Pics would help a great deal as well
Thanks JC
I have done exactly what you said. I pulled the effected shrooms and have my fingers crossed that none of my other shrooms on the other side of the tank start this crap too.
Once again thanks for your help, I was starting to wonder if I could be the only one with this problem. :bum:
I have done exactly what you said. I pulled the effected shrooms and have my fingers crossed that none of my other shrooms on the other side of the tank start this crap too.
Once again thanks for your help, I was starting to wonder if I could be the only one with this problem. :bum:
JMCAquarium
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lol nope over the past 5 years I've gone from 1-2 species of shrooms to over......um lots lol
I just had some of my rarer Pink eyed rics melt away due to the same issues ......I lost all three of them and didn't even notice until to late.
If you have the ability you may even want to do a small water change just to help introduce fresh healthier water.
Pics if you can if you cannot keep me updated.
Where is N. tustin ??
I just had some of my rarer Pink eyed rics melt away due to the same issues ......I lost all three of them and didn't even notice until to late.
If you have the ability you may even want to do a small water change just to help introduce fresh healthier water.
Pics if you can if you cannot keep me updated.
Where is N. tustin ??
JMCAquarium
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Oh raise you salt to 1.024-1.025 (slowly) 1.023 is just a tad low
I have been adding 2 gallons of new water everyday at 1.030. so its a slow process. I have a 6 head Yuma rock on the opposite side of the tank. Not a sign of issue there, and the same with the other shrooms on the left side of the tank. I pulled out last of the melting mushrooms 2 days ago and vaucuumed any sign of the brown waste from around those areas. I am also in process to slowly increase my Iodine to .05 - .06. I can already see a small improvment in my tankmates. I still have no ideas as to what set this off. Maybe it was a learning curve??
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In this pulled back photo, if you can see it next to the rose anneome, the green elephant ear shrooms are where it started. Then 2 heads fell off and hit the sand bed and took out some blue shrooms. Then onto another group of brown/green/purple elephant ears. I have also lost 2 coverings of purple flowers off of 2 seperate rocks. Everything else on these 2 rocks lives on, feathers, pipes. The first rock to loose the purple flowers is making a comback despite the other melting going on ?
The Yumas, some brown, reds, and green shrooms seem to be AOK at this point, they are all on the left side of my tank.
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In this pulled back photo, if you can see it next to the rose anneome, the green elephant ear shrooms are where it started. Then 2 heads fell off and hit the sand bed and took out some blue shrooms. Then onto another group of brown/green/purple elephant ears. I have also lost 2 coverings of purple flowers off of 2 seperate rocks. Everything else on these 2 rocks lives on, feathers, pipes. The first rock to loose the purple flowers is making a comback despite the other melting going on ?
The Yumas, some brown, reds, and green shrooms seem to be AOK at this point, they are all on the left side of my tank.
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I just broke out a video of my old tank and it applies here as well.
Check out this shroom tank. I had over 200+ shrooms for about 10 years in a 120. I hooked up my skimmer after not running it for a few years and after a week, EVERY shroom in the tank melted within 36 hours. Not a trace left! My wife said it was like they were from another planet and just went home lol.
MKB mushroom tank
Check out this shroom tank. I had over 200+ shrooms for about 10 years in a 120. I hooked up my skimmer after not running it for a few years and after a week, EVERY shroom in the tank melted within 36 hours. Not a trace left! My wife said it was like they were from another planet and just went home lol.
MKB mushroom tank
JMCAquarium
They are among us!!
I bet it was your RBTA that started it all it will sting just about anything in it's way and that prob started the elephants to fight back ...losing and dieing off falling onto the one below.
Glad to hear everything is looking good watch the Iodine levels make sure you don't over dose.
any recent pics ??
Glad to hear everything is looking good watch the Iodine levels make sure you don't over dose.
any recent pics ??
I've had this same awful experience with some of my ricordea. Three of them just completely disappeared today. Vanished. I was sure something was eating them. The ones that disappeared are newbies -- in my tank less than a couple of weeks.
The other weird thing was that one of my ricordea that's been attached to a rock for over six months detached today. It seems too 'coincidental'.
I did a freshwater top off today, my salinity was at 1.025 before and 1.023 after. Could this be the cause?
After I found them missing and read this thread, I did a 30% water change (30G aquarium), and ran some carbon. Is there anything else that can be done? I have about 50 ricordea in total and am REALLY scared I'll lose more.
....all this once I decided to convert my nano to all ricordea because I'd always had good luck with them. <sigh> is nothing easy?
I'd really appreciate more feedback on this.
The other weird thing was that one of my ricordea that's been attached to a rock for over six months detached today. It seems too 'coincidental'.
I did a freshwater top off today, my salinity was at 1.025 before and 1.023 after. Could this be the cause?
After I found them missing and read this thread, I did a 30% water change (30G aquarium), and ran some carbon. Is there anything else that can be done? I have about 50 ricordea in total and am REALLY scared I'll lose more.
....all this once I decided to convert my nano to all ricordea because I'd always had good luck with them. <sigh> is nothing easy?
I'd really appreciate more feedback on this.
JMCAquarium
They are among us!!
dropping .oo2 whne it comes to corals is a huge drop in a very short time yes that would have effteced them and that is why they prob started melting although I can't be sure.
Just keep the melting ones away from the others and hope they do not spread I personally starting siphoning the melting ones outs and tossed them. I'd rather be safe then allow a shroom kill off all my others. I have a Dicos shroom rock melt in a matter of two days .....40+ adult shrooms toast never looks like there was a shroom on the rock.
Just keep the melting ones away from the others and hope they do not spread I personally starting siphoning the melting ones outs and tossed them. I'd rather be safe then allow a shroom kill off all my others. I have a Dicos shroom rock melt in a matter of two days .....40+ adult shrooms toast never looks like there was a shroom on the rock.
mskurdah
I spent alot of time reading posts in this catagory while trying to figure out what was going wrong with my mushrooms. Certainly I found that I was not the only one. Currently there are several threads running in the Corallimorpharians catagory that have some great info on Rics. Several fellas have had some odd issues with bugs the eat the Rics from the center outward. You may want to look around to see what others have done to keep up with these problems.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1446813
I spent alot of time reading posts in this catagory while trying to figure out what was going wrong with my mushrooms. Certainly I found that I was not the only one. Currently there are several threads running in the Corallimorpharians catagory that have some great info on Rics. Several fellas have had some odd issues with bugs the eat the Rics from the center outward. You may want to look around to see what others have done to keep up with these problems.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1446813
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Palawan,
I have not yet done a search to try and locate a photo of a worm that is in my tank. It looked like an elephant trunk. I never saw either end of the worm, I saw it stretched across an open area between 2 live rocks. It was brown in color and was about a 1/4" thick. I tried to grab it with a reef tool I have. it slipped through and I have never seen it again. It's body was upside down, with its mouth outstretched downward. Crazy stuff --- huh.
If anyone reads this and knows about this worm. Please let me know if it is a trouble maker.
Thanks
I have not yet done a search to try and locate a photo of a worm that is in my tank. It looked like an elephant trunk. I never saw either end of the worm, I saw it stretched across an open area between 2 live rocks. It was brown in color and was about a 1/4" thick. I tried to grab it with a reef tool I have. it slipped through and I have never seen it again. It's body was upside down, with its mouth outstretched downward. Crazy stuff --- huh.
If anyone reads this and knows about this worm. Please let me know if it is a trouble maker.
Thanks
Did it look like the 3rd picture down in this link: http://forum.marinedepot.com/Topic83284-11-1.aspx. If it looks like a millipede, then he eats soft corals. You will need to get him in the wee hours of the morning i.e. 12-2am, I was able to grab mine using long mechanics grabbers and a dim red flashlight. I was lucky it did not cut in half with these grabbers.
I could not get the link to work that Palawan posted. It missed that the URL included a period on the end. Try this URL
http://forum.marinedepot.com/Topic83284-11-1.aspx
http://forum.marinedepot.com/Topic83284-11-1.aspx
Here is the same worm that I got from my tank. Check out this one!! http://www.oregonreef.com/sub_worm.htm
