My new tanks (image intense)
- Thread starter KwajRocks
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I have but one small sprig of PVC but you are welcome to it ahahah.
Thanks for the the reply, and you are right on the money I am a Building science guy. I laughed at the thought of asking you if I could get a picture of how the floor is supported...only a building science guy would want or care to know something as mundane as that.
Looks like your going to have one heck of a great setup...and those port holes aren't just for the kids I will more than likely want to sit a watch.
Can't wait to see it come together and if you are fairly close I would love to help with the construction.
Thanks for the the reply, and you are right on the money I am a Building science guy. I laughed at the thought of asking you if I could get a picture of how the floor is supported...only a building science guy would want or care to know something as mundane as that.
Looks like your going to have one heck of a great setup...and those port holes aren't just for the kids I will more than likely want to sit a watch.
Can't wait to see it come together and if you are fairly close I would love to help with the construction.
KwajRocks
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Well Whitten, You asked for it.
The floor has two rows of 8" concrete blocks supported by a 12" x 24" concrete footing. (Basically a solid pier system.) These rows of blocks run the entire length of both tanks. Between these runs are 2 X 10s on 8" centers perpendicular to the blocks. All the 2 x 10s are blocked. We left a passageway in the rows of blocks between the runs to access electricity, plumbing, etc. The front of the tanks will also be supported by additional floor jacks, because the tanks actually ended up to be a wee bit wider than originally planned. Hopefully this will be enough. If not, we'll jack her up and pour more concrete! The ideal floor would have been concrete, but I really didn't want a stepdown into the addition, and having the space under the tanks is really ideal.
The floor has two rows of 8" concrete blocks supported by a 12" x 24" concrete footing. (Basically a solid pier system.) These rows of blocks run the entire length of both tanks. Between these runs are 2 X 10s on 8" centers perpendicular to the blocks. All the 2 x 10s are blocked. We left a passageway in the rows of blocks between the runs to access electricity, plumbing, etc. The front of the tanks will also be supported by additional floor jacks, because the tanks actually ended up to be a wee bit wider than originally planned. Hopefully this will be enough. If not, we'll jack her up and pour more concrete! The ideal floor would have been concrete, but I really didn't want a stepdown into the addition, and having the space under the tanks is really ideal.
8BALL_99
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Sorry to say we were in line for tickets for about 25 mins.. I had no idea that getting tickets would be a big deal.. Leason learned:rolleye1:
lol I'll have to hide this thread from shannon.. She tried talking me into a sunroom for her plants and one Large reef tank.. I told her maybe next year... That it seemed a little much to build a room for that haha...
lol I'll have to hide this thread from shannon.. She tried talking me into a sunroom for her plants and one Large reef tank.. I told her maybe next year... That it seemed a little much to build a room for that haha...
8BALL_99
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KwajRocks said:
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Waveloop?,, Im interested tell me more lol... I have high hopes for my 8way Oceansmotions. I'm just not looking foward to plumbing that thing.
Also I would be happy to help if you guys need any.. LOL even though you have like 30 others.. Heck I would just like to see the layout of the plumbing ,, ect,,
Have you thought about geo-thermal cooling? I know you said you had a heat transfer tank.. I've seen a few setups where they layed a couple hundread foot of 1" copper line in the ground a few feet down to help kewl there tank.. It seems to me like that would work great. I had planned on something like that if I ever have heat problems.
Will
8BALL_99
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NO H@rry I guess I should have explained it better,,
You run copper pipe under ground.. on the end where your sump is you have a titanium coil like whats used on drop in chillers.. "ebay 50 bucks" So its pretty much just a closed loop under ground. NONE of the water from the system goes into the water of the tank. The only part that even contacts the tank water is the titanium Coil just like a chiller..
Haha sorry for not going more into before. I figured she might have seen some setups like it before.
Will
You run copper pipe under ground.. on the end where your sump is you have a titanium coil like whats used on drop in chillers.. "ebay 50 bucks" So its pretty much just a closed loop under ground. NONE of the water from the system goes into the water of the tank. The only part that even contacts the tank water is the titanium Coil just like a chiller..
Haha sorry for not going more into before. I figured she might have seen some setups like it before.
Will
H@rry
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Seems like I saw a thread on Reefs.org a few years ago where a guy in the Florida panhandle built a greenhouse for a fish house. He rented a backhoe and dug a long ditch in the ground and zigzaged 4" PVC in the ditch. I think it was about 24" deep. Both ends of the pipe came up in the greenhouse and he put a fan on one end to keep the air circulating. He claimed that was the only heating or cooling he needed. I was a little skeptical of it but it would certainly help.
speakeraddict
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I saw that too and read an updated article on it and he had to eventually add some type of evap cooling to it too.
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KwajRocks
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I actually did see the idea of using the heat transfer tank under the crawl space from a tank I saw in Mike Paletta's book on those awesome tanks. This guy had a tank underground where water circulated through. I don't think he had any copper tubing to help, but I'm not sure. I use copper tubing as you describe on a much smaller scale for (get this) a fog-chiller we use at Halloween for our haunted house. The copper coils cool the fog as it blows through just enough to keep the fog on the ground. I thought of doing something similar, but then I just settled for the tank of water under the house. I am hoping that this will "buffer" the water just enough before it goes to the chillers (1 hp) to take a bit of the load off. We'll see.
the "waveloop" is powered by an OceansMotions 4-way. It is what he suggested I use for my particular set-up. Two outlets are plumbed on each far sides of the tank. One high in the rear corner, one low in the front corner. The opposite end is just the opposite. Then the 4-way rotates so that water is "pushed" from one end of the tanks to the other and then back again. Yes the plumbing will be no fun, so WILL, if you can plumb yours first, that would be great! LOL
And I would love to have the help. I am getting the silencers in the overflows now and the drains plumbed to the sumps. This is the part where an abnormal amount of cursing takes place because my "plastic" arm is just a wee bit short. And I wouldn't want any of your tender ears to hear this, so, AFTER THAT I will definitely need some advice and help.
So like I told Tomoko and Ranbo, how's a "bring your extra PVC (and brain) party" sound? I'll provide the beer.
the "waveloop" is powered by an OceansMotions 4-way. It is what he suggested I use for my particular set-up. Two outlets are plumbed on each far sides of the tank. One high in the rear corner, one low in the front corner. The opposite end is just the opposite. Then the 4-way rotates so that water is "pushed" from one end of the tanks to the other and then back again. Yes the plumbing will be no fun, so WILL, if you can plumb yours first, that would be great! LOL
And I would love to have the help. I am getting the silencers in the overflows now and the drains plumbed to the sumps. This is the part where an abnormal amount of cursing takes place because my "plastic" arm is just a wee bit short. And I wouldn't want any of your tender ears to hear this, so, AFTER THAT I will definitely need some advice and help.
So like I told Tomoko and Ranbo, how's a "bring your extra PVC (and brain) party" sound? I'll provide the beer.
speakeraddict
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If it is samuel smith oatmeal stout or dos equis amber, I am in!
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Done!
Sounds like the making of a party to me.
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Sounds like the making of a party to me.
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Tomoko Schum
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Check out how this guy does his tank maintenance (a 4000 gallon tank):
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y135/crna63/4000galtank.jpg
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http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y135/crna63/4000galtank.jpg
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