My plan for fluke eradication
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Newsmyrna80
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Boy I hate to say this but if it was me I would put them into separate QTs. I would treat the butterfly with another dose of Prazi wait a week do another dip and see if anything come off. As long as the butterfly is exposed to the angel he is in danger of getting them. Then I would probably do a formalin dip on the angel and put into a clean tank. I would do another dip 5-7 days later since it will not kill the eggs. I had to do that with my flame angel.
My plan for fluke eradication
oh geez, sounds so complicated! I do have another qt I could use, I'll set it up and move the angel there after I formalin dip her. Let's see how this goes...
Edit: I just found some general cure in the cabinet, I may try a dose of this before I go dividing them up. It may work.
oh geez, sounds so complicated! I do have another qt I could use, I'll set it up and move the angel there after I formalin dip her. Let's see how this goes...
Edit: I just found some general cure in the cabinet, I may try a dose of this before I go dividing them up. It may work.
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My plan for fluke eradication
I thought of a new game plan, based off of your suggestion. I'm going to try it if the general cure doesn't work.
It's pretty much the tank transfer method. I'll fw dip everyone for a long time, then put them into a different qt tank that is clean. Then, I'll fw dip them again and if they still have flukes, I'll do the same thing over.
My only concern is ammonia. This second tank won't be cycled, I'll probably use biospira to help, but it's going to be tough.
Do you think one tank transfer will be enough to break the cycle
Also, I can't really acclimate them after the fw dip, because that would defeat the purpose to put them back into infected water. Would matching salinity and temp be fine for a transfer from the fw dip to the new tank?
I thought of a new game plan, based off of your suggestion. I'm going to try it if the general cure doesn't work.
It's pretty much the tank transfer method. I'll fw dip everyone for a long time, then put them into a different qt tank that is clean. Then, I'll fw dip them again and if they still have flukes, I'll do the same thing over.
My only concern is ammonia. This second tank won't be cycled, I'll probably use biospira to help, but it's going to be tough.
Do you think one tank transfer will be enough to break the cycle
Also, I can't really acclimate them after the fw dip, because that would defeat the purpose to put them back into infected water. Would matching salinity and temp be fine for a transfer from the fw dip to the new tank?
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Newsmyrna80
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Yes, just match the salinity and temp, just like in TT.
I have the second tank up now, going to let things settle for a couple hours then ill move them. Probably going to do about 15-30 min fw dips if they arent too stressed. Im going to move a mediumish sized rock from the main tank into the filter so I have at least a little bacteria to break down waste
Newsmyrna80
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15-30 minutes is not necessary and it will be very stressful.
I ended up doing 10 for the tang, 20 on the angel and 16 for the butterfly to be sure all of the flukes fell off. I read somewhere online that it took about 10 minutes for some to fall off, but 30 minutes was a bit high. Glad I didnt go that route.
Theyre all settling in nicely and seem so much happier, the angel is eating pellets like mad and breathing is good.
Im hoping this is the end
Theyre all settling in nicely and seem so much happier, the angel is eating pellets like mad and breathing is good.
Im hoping this is the end
Newsmyrna80
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If there are flukes in their gills a FW dip will not kill them. They bury themselves deeper into the gills. Did anything come off the butterfly?
Newsmyrna80
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External flukes will die but studies have shown that flukes that are in gills will bury themselves into the lamina to guard against the change in salinity. However, if they are not in the gills the dip will be effective.
Newsmyrna80
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Sounds like a good plan
Newsmyrna80
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Since you got flukes off them I would say the healing process has not yet begun. Equate it to us when we get a cut. It doesn't start to itch for a few days depending on the severity of the injury.
Since you got flukes off them I would say the healing process has not yet begun. Equate it to us when we get a cut. It doesn't start to itch for a few days depending on the severity of the injury.
salty joe
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Will FW dip with formulin do the trick?
Newsmyrna80
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Research has shown that a 5-10 minute dip is not enough contact time for the formalin to be effective.
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