Newsmyrna80
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Out of curiosity what is the pH of the QT?
My plan for fluke eradication
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Newsmyrna80
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I have read in an abstract on fish pathology that low pH can be the cause of fish scratching. I wish I could find which one it was. Anyway, the abstract referred to low pH as anything lower than 7.6. Your pH is fine. When are you dipping the angel?
Deinonych
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There is also anecdotal evidence that fish will continue to present phantom symptoms such as scratching well after they are cleared of parasites. I personally have not experienced this (every time I've had a fish flash, they have a parasite), but it's something to consider if no flukes are showing after a FW dip. Of course, this assumes the fish is confirmed to be free of other parasites like Cryptocaryon etc.
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news but ich can be in the gills and never show any spots. Which begs to ask the question "How do I know the fish doesn't have ich?" Good question. But I would think after 4 weeks in copper at therapeutic levels should have taken care of it.
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No...they usually show kind of signs. However, some fish can build up an immunity but I've read that it can last up to six months.
I don't blame you about the copper. You could always do TT which would take about 14 days and in the mean time you could still be dosing Prazi or just observing.
I don't blame you about the copper. You could always do TT which would take about 14 days and in the mean time you could still be dosing Prazi or just observing.
These fish are going to be the death of me!!
Im not sure that I want to take action with the ich because im not even sure it is ich, the only thing is the scratching and that could be anything. It seems whenever I medicate, their condition declines and they eat less and arent as active.
Ive had these fish since january, and havent sseen ich after the copper treatment...im just not convinced.
I think ill just extend my observation and up the water changes. I havent seen her scratch today at all.(yet!)
Im not sure that I want to take action with the ich because im not even sure it is ich, the only thing is the scratching and that could be anything. It seems whenever I medicate, their condition declines and they eat less and arent as active.
Ive had these fish since january, and havent sseen ich after the copper treatment...im just not convinced.
I think ill just extend my observation and up the water changes. I havent seen her scratch today at all.(yet!)
Newsmyrna80
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That's probably what I would do given that the only sign is scratching.
It does sound like a ton of work :/
Could the scratching be from HLLE healing? I read another thread where someone had a tang with HLLE and it would scratch occasionally, someone else chimed in and had the same experience.
I'm not looking for every excuse possible to not have to treat ich, but there are a lot of possibilities I'm thinking
Could the scratching be from HLLE healing? I read another thread where someone had a tang with HLLE and it would scratch occasionally, someone else chimed in and had the same experience.
I'm not looking for every excuse possible to not have to treat ich, but there are a lot of possibilities I'm thinking
I dipped the angelfish. I have good news and bad news. Good news is that the dip was clean! Bad news is she jumped out of the net again, even when I covered it. She was on the floor for probably 20 seconds, I couldn't figure out how to pick her up, all her spines were out. But I finally flipped her into the net and she is okay, but breathing very very hard right now. I feel so bad, but I think she'll calm down.
Newsmyrna80
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Good news about the dip! I've had a royal gramma jump out of a dip. He was breathing hard for a while but recovered just fine.
Scares the heck out of me! she recovered fine and was eating minutes after the incident 
Now, I think I'll just wait it out and watch the scratching with the tang. It only happens when I scare him and he hides behind the heater. It never happens when he's swimming happily and suddenly scratches.
Wait- maybe it's the heat from the heater that does it to him? Who knows!!
Now, I think I'll just wait it out and watch the scratching with the tang. It only happens when I scare him and he hides behind the heater. It never happens when he's swimming happily and suddenly scratches.
Wait- maybe it's the heat from the heater that does it to him? Who knows!!
Im so tempted to move them this weekend. The angels breathing is normal, the tangs is fast but its because whenever im around she dashes and hides.
Ive had them about six months, and they have been med free for about a month. If I move them and they infect the big tank, im screwed. But I feel like other day theyre in a smaller tank, its not good for them in the long run.
Ive had them about six months, and they have been med free for about a month. If I move them and they infect the big tank, im screwed. But I feel like other day theyre in a smaller tank, its not good for them in the long run.
Newsmyrna80
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Your not necessarily screwed. Some people have dosed their reef tanks so if catching them is a pain there is that option. I agree that keeping them in the QT is not good in the long run. If they've been med free for a month and their breathing is good I would be very tempted to move them.
Yes but I hate hate hate dosing the main tank with prazi even though it's so safe. I did it when I had flukes in there last year, and it didn't work anyway 
plus everyone in the tank is doing so well and I don't want to jeopardize their health
I'm going to see how it goes, I'm so reluctant. but if not this weekend, then definitely next!!
plus everyone in the tank is doing so well and I don't want to jeopardize their health I'm going to see how it goes, I'm so reluctant. but if not this weekend, then definitely next!!
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