Newsmyrna80
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My plan for fluke eradication
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Congrats!!!
I had to rehome the flame angel, she would not leave the butterfly alone, and gave him a few scars
The tang is doing well! I see no signs of disease except today I saw the butterfly scratch a couple times within 15 seconds. I didn't see it after that though, I'm thinking it was just something bothering his gills. And if something was really wrong, the tang would have been scratching too (which it wasn't)
I had to rehome the flame angel, she would not leave the butterfly alone, and gave him a few scars
The tang is doing well! I see no signs of disease except today I saw the butterfly scratch a couple times within 15 seconds. I didn't see it after that though, I'm thinking it was just something bothering his gills. And if something was really wrong, the tang would have been scratching too (which it wasn't)
marin8n
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So I've been fighting flukes in my QT with 3 BFF (Black Pyramid, Pearlscale, and Auriga). Did a 10 min FW dip on the BP and PS last night. A few came off the Pearlscale and a TON came off the BP. The Auriga had some growth under it's mouth so I started it with a 90 min Paragard dip that it seemed to handle very well. I followed that immediately with a 10 min FW dip and the fish died about an hour later. Is that a big no-no to go from a Paragard dip directly to a FW dip? QT is also on week 3 of Cupramine treatment for ich.
Newsmyrna80
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I'm sorry about your butterfly. So I understand, you took the Auriga out of copper put it into Paraguard then did a FW dip then put it back into copper? May have been too much stress on him with all those dips. I take it since you are treating with copper that you have confirmed they have ich?
marin8n
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That's correct. He may have been too far gone and all that ended up being too much for him. I saw a few spots on the tail of the black pyramid so I started cupramine about 3 weeks ago. I perform prophylactic treatment on all fish for crypt as part of my QT regimen anyways. After FW dips 3 days ago, I did a water change and 10 min FW dips again last night on the Pearlscale and Black Pyramid and only a fluke or two came off. I redosed the prazi at 1.5tsp/10gal and both fish seem to be handling it well. I will do the same in 3 days to try and make sure I get any eggs as they hatch as I believe these are the egg laying variety. That sound like a good plan from your experience?
Newsmyrna80
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I personally do not use copper so I can not speak to that. But the dosage for Prazi is 1 tsp/20 gallons. You are overdosing them. I would do a water change to reduce the level of Prazi. Then wait 5 days do a small water change and dose again.
marin8n
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I went with the higher dose from the advice of one of the Hikari techs. I already ran 3 rounds of prazi at the recommended dosage with the WC every 5 days and the flukes came back. That was before I was doing the FW dips as well so I want to knock these things out with the combo. Cupramine/prazi combo hasn't been an issue for me unless the Cu somehow reduced the effectiveness of the prazi?
Newsmyrna80
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Ah, ok. I got the same recommendations from them last year when I had a case of very Prazi resistant flukes. Prazi in the end did not eliminate the flukes. I had to go with the formalin dips. I fought those things for six months prior to the dips.
Are you still occasionally doing FW dips? If so, have you seen/identified flukes and if so what did they look like? I ask because at this point if you can positively id the culprit you can formulate a plan based on the life cycle of the specific fluke family.
Are you still occasionally doing FW dips? If so, have you seen/identified flukes and if so what did they look like? I ask because at this point if you can positively id the culprit you can formulate a plan based on the life cycle of the specific fluke family.
marin8n
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Yes, doing FW dips when I make the water change to redose. So every 5 days is the plan with my 2nd megadose/dips set for tomorrow. First time I saw lots of flukes come of during the FW dips. 2nd time only a few. They look like little opaque flakes, like a translucent sesame seed. So the formalin dips finally did it for you? Can you describe how that works exactly and how would I transition from the treatment I'm doing now?
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