my stocking wish list.... almsot there :)

mindytoy

mindytoy

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hi guys. my 90 gallon surfline is cycled! yeay! tokk almost 2 months. lots of copods, featherdusters, sponges, you name it.

anyways i have 9 scarlett hermits, and 17 snails, 2 turbos, 8 margarita, and 7 astrios. they are all doing good. i had 10 scarletts but one died :(

anyways, im almost going to add some frags next week. some green star polyps, small leather, red shroom, 2 green shrooms, colt corral, 3 pulsating xenia, some zoas, kenya tree and i think one more. all softies.

i will add them all at the same time...if thats ok? or is there some kind of thing i should do like 3 a day or something?

then in about 3 weeks or more if all is well this is my fish stocking list....

-2 clowns (medium size about 2")
-dwarf lionfish (med about 2")
-blue hippo tang (small about 2")
-niger trigger (small about 2")
-watchman goby
-and a mandarin goby regular size

i know the trigger and blue hippo will outgrow the tank...but by then in 2+ years ill have a 300+ setup when i move into my own house.

so other than that issue...has anyone ever had any of these together????? and any problems you had?? do you guys think they will be good and all? i mean it cant be perfect, but if i see any fish being harmfull or whatever i will take him out.

other than that i will get maybe a brain coral, and an anenome, and other softies. maybe a starfish and a cleaner shrimp....

what do you guys think? i WONT get mad for advise, however i dont want to hear that the trigger or blue hippo will outgrow the tank i already adressed this issue..

as for the equipment i have a HOB refugium with starfish, copeods, worms, etc, have a remora up to 120 gal skimmer, powerheads, lighting is from a nova extreme 2x 54 watt actinics and 2x 54 watt 10ks. very bright. might upgrade to the 8 light one.

thanx guys and if you can help at all please go ahead and post instead of just wait for others to chime in. if youve had any of these together POST. like a hipo with a niger, or dwarf with a goby, etc!
 
are dwarf lion fish even reef safe. I don't know for sure but i thought i heard that at my lfs one time. sounds ike a good livestock list though let us know how it turns out. Corals shouldn't add to your bio load. I think you could add them all at once.
 
wont the trigger and lion fish eat everything that they can get their mouths on?

especially the trigger...aren't they aggressive?
 
Re: my stocking wish list.... almsot there :)

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13133953#post13133953 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mindytoy

what do you guys think? i WONT get mad for advise, however i dont want to hear that the trigger or blue hippo will outgrow the tank i already adressed this issue..
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I am sorry, but 2 years is a long time. Never know what will happen. Can't count of the 300 gallon tank being ready on time.

Plus, blue tangs grow fast, and could easily outgrow a 90 in 2 years.
 
Congratulations on finishing your cycle!

Can you let us know the livestock you are most interested in keeping? I see a number of people saying drop the lionfish, but if this is one of the more important fish for you to keep, your list could be arranged a little differently to accomodate.

I also agree with the others, I personally find it best to get the fish for the tank I have now and put the others off till I have completed my upgrade. You just never know what your future holds and it isn't too hard to make a great livestock list for the tank you have now with a little help.
 
why not make an aggressive tank?
with lion fish and triggers

you cant have the snails or any smaller, peaceful fish but you could do the trigger and maybe a bigger lionfish if you wanted to

my boyfriend and i are planning to do an aggressive fish only with a volitions, a trigger, and a porcupine puffer
 
well the trigger is my favorite fish. the niger trigger. thats why i want him lol. the dwarf doesnt get over 5" fully grown in the ocean so in captivity 4-5...

the trigger will get big and so will the hippo. the clowns get about 3" so thats the only ones im concerned of having that lionfish with.

thats why im trying to get the weaker smaller ones bigger and the trigger and lion tiny....

if anything im ok to ditch the lionfish and replace him with a yellow tang or something...
 
you're trigger will grow to be at least 1 foot in length...
he shouldnt be with anything smaller than him

so anything that will be smaller than 1 foot (fully grown) should not be put with him.

i think the hippo would be ok but not the clowns or gobies

you should always think about the fish as being fully grown in my opinion. fish grow...you cant think about them at their current smaller size.
 
I don't believe in buying fish and "planning to upgrade later on".

Buy the fish when you get the 300 Gallon tank.


For the 90 Gallon...

The clowns are fine. The mandarin is fine if you wait about 6 months and have a fuge for pods. The watchman is fine.
 
Triggers are also extremely messy eaters. With the proposed fish list that Remora skimmer in your tank specs is not going to be nearly efficient enough to take care of that waste.

Smaller fish it would get by fine if you are strict with your water changes.
 
The mix of fish you've got planned is just not that good compatability-wise. Triggers and lionfish are usually kept in fish-only or aggressive tanks.
IMO, the blue tang would be fine in a 90g for a very long time, although I know others will disagree.
Also, I would not add all the fish at once. The smaller, less aggressive should go first. And adding fish slowly over time gives your biofiltration a chance to adjust gradually.
FWIW,
Mariner
 
thanx :)

yeah that was my plan. adding the smaller ones first to establish themselves too..

i did post please do not mention the trigger or hippo outgrowing the tank. i have done alot of research and KNOW they will. like i said i will put them in a 300+ after a certain size.

my friend has 4 tanks hes had for 3-5 years, and he said he can hold any for me. for cheap. he has a 75, a 120, a 360 and a monster 900.

so like i said i can transfer them there. but i know it will take atleast 2-4 years for the trigger or hippo to get from 1.5 or 2" to 6". ofcourse if i notice they dont have enough space i will take them out before.

this is why i posted if you have had any of these combined please post, people always post what theyve heard.

ive seen 2 tanks here locally with clowns and fully grown dwarf lions, and they look fine, ofcourse you cant base it off two tanks but even online since they are small, its more than likely they wont eat anything bigger than their mouth. a fully grown lions mouth is 1.5" so a 3" fish i doubt he'll eat especially if they have been tankmates for a while.

i might not get the lionfish, since he is the one i have more concerns about. i know the trigger will most likely not eat anyone in the tank and wont eat corrals..
 
I would loose the trigger, lion, Blue hippo and the Mandarin from your immediate stocking list. You will want to stock reef safe fish and give better consideration to the fish and your tank size. The fish need to be added slowly. One or two per month would be a good pace. The corals can all be added at the same time. You can add the Mandarin back into the mix in about 6 months after your tank is more mature. The Blue hippo could be added later when you get your new 300. The lion and the trigger will both get big and aggressive towards fish and corals. Make sure you use a QT for all new fish before adding them to the tank.

I agree that many people post what they've heard and regurgitate a bunch of second hand information. Something else I've noticed is noobs tend to only hear advice that they want to hear to justify their misconceived ideas.

As far as what you've seen some yahoo keeping in his tank. That doesn't make it a good idea. I've seen people keep a lions, tigers and bears chained and/or caged up in their back yard. I've seen people screw with the lion at the zoo. I've also seen people get their arse handed to them by the lion. Mouth size doesn't have a lot to do with one animal killing another. Fish will attack a piece of meat like a dog attacks a piece of meat. They will get a mouth full and shake it like a Polaroid until they've ripped a bit sized chunk out. Then they go back for another bite. Some fish have nice sharp teeth to facilitate the action.
 
i see....

its not that im trying to hear what i want to hear. but how agressive could a 2" trigger be? i mean have any of you had a niger trigger to back up your advise? furthermore a baby trigger?

i have heard ALOT more people WITH triggers say that their niger triggers are reef safe. like 9 out of 10 tell me they love that fish and they dont bother anyone. true they are pigs, and most ppl get rid of them within 3-5 years because of their size.

i know the blue hippo for a fact will be ok in the 90 for atleast 2 years. my friend has 3 of them in a 120 and they have grown maybe 1" in a year.

the lionfish for the last time is a DWARF lionfish which get 4-5"s in captivity 6" in the wild.

playa- have you had any of these combined together?

like i said the hippo and niger trigger WILL be taken care of when they get bigger. so please stop saying plans may change and this and that.

what i want from this thread is for ANYONE who has HAD any of those fish TOGETHER tell me how they acted and all.

like i said i will stock properly. a fish a month or so. except for the clowns since they are a mated pair that have been together for 3 years.

and i know the mandarin will be added in 6 months and when my fuge is pumping with pods.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13147164#post13147164 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mindytoy

i know the blue hippo for a fact will be ok in the 90 for atleast 2 years. my friend has 3 of them in a 120 and they have grown maybe 1" in a year.
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1 inch of growth for a blue tang over the course of a year, is uncommon -- in the sense that that is very slow growth.

Years ago my ex-wife bought me one ( for my 58, way too small ) and it still managed to grow about 2.5 inches in a year. (( Sold it shortly after that year ))
 
yeah i thought theyd grow faster too....

even if its 2"s a year, i think a 6" hippo in 2-3 years would be ready for the new tank.

plus the 90 has alot of swimming space :)

how long to QT a blue hippo for?
 
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