andrew5013
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So I ordered a NC 12DX, do I need to cycle the tank if I am using live rock out of my already established 55 gal tank?
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kaserpick
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Reefwick: I'm pretty sure it's chemistry in the water from the already existing 55 gal. that he has that'll cause it to be instantly cycled. Not just the live rock, although it does help. It's the ions forming bonds with oxygen through the bacteria present on the live rock.
In other words, the quickest way is to do what Aural said.
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Kaserpick
In other words, the quickest way is to do what Aural said.
Thumbs up!
Kaserpick
reefwick
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Maybe it has some minor effect but water does not contain the necessities for the denitrification process. It is housed in the LR. The chemistry will be the same in newly mixed water as it is in pre-existing water. Otherwise doing large water changes would decimate our tanks. I'm not saying that what you said doesn't have some minor effect but what handles a bio-load and is the initail cause and cure to cycling is the LR. LR is the back bone to our filtration, not water.
steelhealr
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I agree with reefwick. The water column has little nitrifying bacteria at all. The biologic filtration rests in the LR and the substrate to some degree. Getting to the question, if you have a 55 gallon tank with LR in it and cycled, that is the same as precured...in fact, the best kind...from your own tank. It should be ready to go. SH
mr pink floyd
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its the beneficial bacteria i nthe water that kicksis it all off, if there is already abcteria, it wont need to cycle
the cycle is all to build up bacteria
the cycle is all to build up bacteria
reefwick
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Waterkeepers thread
Guys, here is one of the many many threads I found showing that the LR is where the beneficial bacteria is housed. It is not in the water, the water quality is dictated by the LR. Just scroll down on the first page to the LR section and read for yourself, there is even an additional link to a beginners guide to LR. I'm not trying to beat a dead horse here but the bottom line is, IT'S NOT THE WATER, NOT EVEN CLOSE!!!!!
Guys, here is one of the many many threads I found showing that the LR is where the beneficial bacteria is housed. It is not in the water, the water quality is dictated by the LR. Just scroll down on the first page to the LR section and read for yourself, there is even an additional link to a beginners guide to LR. I'm not trying to beat a dead horse here but the bottom line is, IT'S NOT THE WATER, NOT EVEN CLOSE!!!!!
kaserpick
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I think we all know that the bacteria is housed in the LR; I completely agree with you there Reefwick. And it's pretty plain and simple that the LR is the backbone of the filtration in our tanks. But adding water from a pre-existing tank will cause the new tank to be cycled almost instantaneously if the LR is present. Adding ALL new water can result in a slower cycle.
In short I agree that LR HAS to be present for a stable reef system to have a bright future (perhaps I didn't convey my ideas correctly last post), BUT I always thought that water from pre-existing system would help speed up the process of CYCLING. If it's a good system it can't hurt right.
Cheers Reefwick, and sorry if I ****ed you off (didn't mean to)
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Kaserpick
In short I agree that LR HAS to be present for a stable reef system to have a bright future (perhaps I didn't convey my ideas correctly last post), BUT I always thought that water from pre-existing system would help speed up the process of CYCLING. If it's a good system it can't hurt right.
Cheers Reefwick, and sorry if I ****ed you off (didn't mean to)Thumbs up!
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reefwick
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No man, I'm not trying to make enemies or anything but what I took from your statement was that the water was the meat of the denitrifictaion process. You can add all new water to already established LR and there will be no difference then if you added pre-existing water. (assuming your salt is pre-buffered, which most are)
It sounds like all this guy is doing is taking LR from his one tank and putting it in a new one. Now maybe there will be some sort of spike with a new SB but minimal if any. But yes, if he wants to put water from his existing tank into his new one more power to him, it just won't have any effect on a cycle or bacteria for that matter.
I think we agree but we're just not conveying it correctly.
It sounds like all this guy is doing is taking LR from his one tank and putting it in a new one. Now maybe there will be some sort of spike with a new SB but minimal if any. But yes, if he wants to put water from his existing tank into his new one more power to him, it just won't have any effect on a cycle or bacteria for that matter.
I think we agree but we're just not conveying it correctly.
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aural
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you are right, it doesnt have much to do with the water, it just just good practice in my experience to keep at least some of the water for the system you are bringing the rock from.
if you dont use the water will you see a chemical spike? probably not much if any. but it wont hurt anything either. and if your PH and calcium are at good levels in your main system, it would be a good thing to carry that over to a new system.
just my opinion.
if you dont use the water will you see a chemical spike? probably not much if any. but it wont hurt anything either. and if your PH and calcium are at good levels in your main system, it would be a good thing to carry that over to a new system.
just my opinion.
