Natural Reef system for HLLE

griseum

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I wanted to comment on something. With all of the filtration methods ive tried over the years, finding the Natural Reef method has been a great success for me. Being a biologist, Ive mentioned how much I enjoy trying to create an immense Biodiversity Index in my entire system. Im constantly seeking new types of Macro-Algae to cultivate, and new inverts to add to my macro and LR tanks. Im fascinated by the Microfauna that develops in a nutrient rich environment, as large Shark tanks often become. Im not keeping SPS here so to say I maintain nitrates at <5ppm would be a complete lie. I do try to keep them within a manageable range however, hence the macro tanks, Miracle Mud, Aggressive Skimming, RDSBs, and lots of Biopellets.

What I want to talk about though is the rehabilitative properties of these diverse Macro tanks. I find great pleasure in taking in and even purchasing ill fish, most often HLLE to varying degrees. I keep them in these tanks, often large angels and tangs of varying size. For dry food, I feed exclusively New Life Spectrum. If I could be a spokesman for this company I would. Since switching to this food exclusively a few years ago, Ive never had happier, healthier, disease free fish. I also feed frozen, daily, usually PE Mysis which are gut-loaded, or spirulina enriched brine shrimp. I supplement the fresh seafood and shellfish as well as the Mysis and brine with Zoe and Zoecon, as of most recently, but always some type of supplement in the past, whether Vita-Chem or Selcon.

Between this very healthy NLS pellets of varying size and the PE Mysis and supplemented frozen and fresh foods, this sick fish that I take in usually rebound in less than a month. About three months ago, I bought a stunted purple tang that had HLLE so bad that his Dorsal Fin and Anal fin had eroded to almost a third of what they should have been. I put him in a macro tank and as a marker, I checked him fully after exactly one month. The Lateral line was completely healed as was the head, and his fins were almost completely regrown, albeit slightly more progress needs to be made there.

I also just bought an Adult Imperator Angel with the worst Hole in the head Ive seen yet. Super deep holes all throughout its forehead, and the usual lateral line erosion, as well as a bit skinny to the point that I could see his ribs. I believe this fish was brought to the LFS because of its condition, The LFS is very reputable I don't think it was from their suppliers. Had it remained in the store, it never would have recovered. They just don't have the time or space to provide a fish this ill with the proper environment.

So because of the lack of girth, low weight and HLLE, Im first treating this fish in QT with Prazi because I believe it may be a case of intestinal worms that are causing the weight loss as well as the vitamin deficiency causing HLLE. Ill post pics of the Angel and recovering Tang in a minute. I want to log the recovery process of this Angel in a Natural Reef method Aquarium.

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Pics of HLLE in Emp Angel and Rehabilitated Purple Tang
Simply by being exposed to Macro-Algae and a normal healthy diet.
Purple tang was so sick its dorsal and anal fins were crescent shaped and less than one third as wide as they should have been when fully extended.
Angel is in QT with Praziqauntel before he is released into an Algae tank or the Pond itself.

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Any better pics of the purple tang? Mine has HLLE and I noticed some discoloration under his"chin" but I;m not sure why.I feed him nori soaked in selcon and flakes soaked in garlic.I want to give the miracle mud a try.
 
hes so fast and skittish, its hard for me to get a good picture of him. That and hes small and in these natural macro tanks, theres a lot of places to hide. To take these pics I had to coax him with my hand and use the other hand to take phone camera shots. Let me look at the other pics I snapped...
 
Hope that maybe one of these shots can help??!!

I don't assume that people have large macro tanks and vegetable filters inline with there large systems like I do. Im lucky in the way I have designed things to have these tanks on hand to rehabilitate fish that need a near natural environment.

Studies have been shown that just the presence of macroalgae in the same aquarium, not even the eating of said algae, just its presence, has cured lateral line in tangs and angels.

If you have a refugium, maybe some time spent in there will help your tang.
As I said, I Use NLS pellets from 1mm-10mm and everything in between. I also use Zoe and Zoecon on all frozen foods. Maybe these will help.
 

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Griseum, I totally agree with the method of a natural tank. My tank is about as natural as it can be, I collected the rocks in the sea, much of the water is NSW that I collect, I also collect amphipods, copepods and macro algae in the sea. I add mud a few times a year from a bay here in NY and never have any disease problems. Some of the fish are 19 years old and out of the 25 or so fish in the tank only a few are not spawning and they don't have a mate.
I don't have to quarantine even though the tank is 42 years old. As you do, I like to aquire sick fish and re cooperate them. Most of the sick fish just need to swim in a natural tank for a week or two to become completely healed.
I don't use flake food, preferring fresh seafoods such as clams, mussels and live worms.
I bought this ich infested copperband and in a week he looked like the second picture. I had to give him away because my resident copperband would not tolerate him. This is what my copperband did to him in an hour.
Ich also never bothers my fish. I can't quarantine because of all the life I add from the sea.

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Paul B
How far out do you go to collect the water and mud? Do you do anything to it, i.e filter it add to it in anyway?
 
For the water, depending on how cold it is, I may go all the way out to my knees.
I have a boat but prefer to collect here on an ocean beach. Right near the sand on an ocean beach is fine but my tank was started with water I collected from the Long Island Sound right near Manhattan but I don't recommend that. I normally don't do anything to the water except heat it up and usually add some salt as our water here is weak.

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I can't collect mud on that sandy beach but I take it from a muddy tide pool in the Long Island Sound.
I just take a couple of tablespoons and put it in a dish in my reef. Then in a couple of days I remove it. I just want the bacteria and I don't really need much mud but I do squirt some around just for the heck of it. I always did this and don't know if it is good or not.

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Great stuff Paul. Sterility may work for some but I like to go au naturale!!!
That last pic is where I'd like to be hiding right now. All by myself with a small net just to observe the life and definitely no cell phone.
 
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