need advice on QT problem

mjpelikan

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Backstory (or wow I am an idiot):

I bought a yellow tang from a LFS and after temperature acclimating it, dropped it into my 72g (DUMB ). Him and the blueface angelfish didn't get along, and after a couple of days, decided to put the angelfish (who was looking pretty rough) into my 120g. (DUMB ). My coral beauty harassed him, so I put him back into the 72g, and in 2 days the angel died. By this point, in the 72g, the fox face had a case of ich, the clowns were looking pale/whitish, and the bicolor blenny had died inexplicably. An even longer story short: the only fish left in the 72g are the foxface, the yellow tang, and a diamond watchman goby.

Unfortunately, in the 120, I have noticed now the scopus has a case of ich, and the coral beauty was trying to get the cleaner shrimp to clean him.

Advice Needed:
I have a 150 gallon Rubbermaid stock tank in the basement, that is about to be plumbed to the upstairs.

Dert and I have been discussing this and we came up with:
Selling the yellow tang back to the LFS for a pitence of store credit.

Putting all the fish into a freshwater bath/dip then putting them into the 120g hooking the sump up to the 120g and doing a hyposalinity treatment (OST - osmotic shock therapy).
Putting all the coral, inverts and LR into the 72g.

I will put some PVC tubes into the 120 for hiding places...

Waiting 6-8 weeks then raising my salinity back to 1.025, aquascaping, moving fish to appropriate tanks, etc etc.

Questions

Since I possibly have multiple problems (including clownfish disease), should I also do a formalin bath?

I am also planning on giving all the fish metronidazinole while they are in OST, waste of time or good idea?

Instead of putting the fish into the 120g, should I put them all into the 150g stock tank, and not plumb it to the 120g, and perform the OST in the 150g?

Will doing OST in the 120 kill the bacteria in the DSB?

Should any of my fish not be given this treatment (or the formalin)?
Fish list: Foxface Lo, Vlaming Tang, Scopus tang, 2 maroon clowns, 2 engineer gobies, 2 scissortails, 1 diamond watchmen goby, 1 Orange spotted goby, 1 yellow watchman goby, 1 coral beauty, 1 lawnmower blenny, 1 six line wrasse.

Will I ever learn?

Thanks for your input,

Mike
 
If you have sand in the 120, I would not do your hypo in there. I have read tales of ich surviving hypo somehow while down in the sandbed. You want something that is completely free of rock and sand, bare bottom, with your pvc pieces in it.

If you're going to do hypo anyway, I don't think I'd stress the fish further by doing a freshwater dip. My understanding is some people do this to get some of the more obvious ich spots to come off with a very severely infected fish, but if you're going to do hypo anyway, then you're going to kill all the ich anyway if you do the hypo correctly...or that's what the theory is. Hypo has worked for me.

Sorry, I don't know if there are any specific worries with any of those fish. I have hypo'd my foxface, scopas, clowns, chromis, and anthias with no problems. Don't know about simultaneous treatment of a suspected clown disease.

Will I ever learn?

There is yet hope, young skywalker... :lol:

Hope it all works out.
 
I was reading about hypo and one site says it doesn't necessarily kill Brooklynella (clown fish disease), but three successive formalin dips do...
 
The ich really isn't the worst of my problems... the brooklynella that took down the angel and the clownfish scares the bejeebus out of me... (especially since i contaminated both tanks with the infected angel)
 
So far so good! I had to tear down my aqua scapping in both tanks, but I got all of the fish! gave them a 40 min or so formalin bath, then a fresh water dip (1 - 2 min) then in to the sump!

They were all alive this morning, a little skittish but they all seemed to eat and the scopus tang had the normal coloration this morning, instead of super pale. I didn't get a chance to look closely at the female maroon clown, which had very bad signs of brooklynella on her. Tonight when start lowering the salinity, I will try to take a good look at her.
 
people say I am crazy but I use coral vital in myt tank and have never had ich since. it lists that as a use on the bottle.
 
hmmm will leaving the display tank with out the massive amounts of waste that the vlamngi and gang produce reduce the amount of bacteria in the sand bed?
 
no prob!

That mean old clown was looking bad before I gave her the formalin bath but she is looking great. Her boyfriend and her were even playing together this afternoon :D
 
Latest Update

Latest Update

My poor little RO unit has been going sooo slow that it has taken till this past Sunday to bring the water in the 150g rubermaid stock tank down to 1.009.

I have attached an UV sterilizer, but I doubt there is any point to it now.

Everybody seems to be good at this point, and most have stopped being overly skiddish when I come to the tank.

Last week I lost my coral beauty, but I did not follow the formalin dip schedule as religiously as I should have.

There are currently no signs of ich or brooklynella :D
 

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