Need opinions

[Easy E]

I thought that wrasse & dottyback , hawkfish& Blenny were no good together since they are too similar to each other

They are not similar. They are completely different genus and species. The only thing that makes them similar is that they are semi-aggressive. If you want to keep the wrasse, you need to add fish with a similar temperament. If you add fish that are less aggressive than the wrasse, they could get bullied. If you add a fish that's more aggressive than the wrasse, you will have the same issues you're already experiencing.

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[Easy E]

I know I have to rescape the tank but if I leave the tank empty for a week will it un cycle bc no added waste? I definitely want a clown or two , but after that I don't really know since it's usually just what ends up in lfs and I don't want to be waiting for months waiting for more fish but is ordering online even legitimate

No, as long as keep the existing rock, sand, and filtration, the tank will remain cycled. You might want to add a little bit of food to make sure there is plenty of beneficial bacteria when you add more fish. The most important thing you can do for this tank is add a lot more rock. This will have more positive effect on the behavior of your fish than anything else you could try. A few small pieces is not enough. Fish need hiding places to reduce stress and make them feel safe.

You also need to be patient and picky when choosing new fish. Make sure they are healthy and suitable for your tank. Waiting months or even years for positive results is a necessity in this hobby. Most fish stores will order what you want if it's available. All you have to do is ask. Just remember you don't have to buy the fish if it looks sick or is not what you expected.

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[Trx237]

I'm going to order like 20 pounds of reef saver rock from brs I think this is the best option since it doesn't have to be cycled for months
I know wrasses and dottybacks are different but when I had them together they hated each other, the wrasse was bullied into submission and would stay in top right corner. If I build the scape with many hiding spaces I think the two of them would be able to get along maybe.
But eventually the dottyback jumped out and I like the rimless look of the tank and I read somewhere that they were jumpers

 

[Trx237]

Either way one of them will be shunned into submission so I think it would be better if I start over, rescape and plan the stock so that I can add more peaceful fish first let them get their own spaces and then add fish that is deemed more aggressive like someone suggested above

 

[Uncle99]

TRX you have a nice tank. I get the feeling you are looking for a peaceful reef setting.
I think the rock is a great start, the first step, and the most important is the cycle. You must be patient. You need to get your beneficial bacteria up to par whereas any addition of ammonia, and all life expels this at different levels is quickly consumed. Without this, or, without a strong export function will just lead to big losses.

If you like clowns, (I started with a pair of black Darwins) or ocellaris pair might be the first big addition to your tank. Once these settle and you have a command of water parameters (NSW reccommended) in a few months, add a BTA. You will need at least a 165w LED light, these you can see on Amazon for 150 bucks and consistent water to support him. The
Reason I put him next is he will wander for some time until he finds a place he likes, avoid moving him to the Centre, he will just move wear he wants, but at on point he will stop.

During this time you can add a royal gramma, and or a purple or red firfish as an example.

You can probably add a ton of corals if you want, but add slowly everything so each time your bacteria can catch up to the new processing level.

I would forget SPS, and suggest a Softy/LPS mixed reef, lots of choices and colour here.

Watch torches, Favias, and anything else labeled agressive as they can shoot out sweeper tentacles to kill neighbors, they are OK, but must have lots of space, which you don't have a lot of.

Always run carbon and get your nutrients down to 2-5ppm nitrate and .02-.04 phosphate.

So, to sum up, get Rock, cycle to ammonia is zero, add some food, ammonia must stay zero, add say your clowns, wait a month, make sure all three are in the stated ranges, then add slowly.

Good luck, your on the right track...

 

[Easy E]

I'm going to order like 20 pounds of reef saver rock from brs I think this is the best option since it doesn't have to be cycled for months
I know wrasses and dottybacks are different but when I had them together they hated each other, the wrasse was bullied into submission and would stay in top right corner. If I build the scape with many hiding spaces I think the two of them would be able to get along maybe.
But eventually the dottyback jumped out and I like the rimless look of the tank and I read somewhere that they were jumpers

The royal dottyback you had is way more aggressive than the dottybacks I suggested. I would never suggest that anyone put a royal dottyback in any tank. The purple and the diadem are also super aggressive terrors.

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[Easy E]

Either way one of them will be shunned into submission so I think it would be better if I start over, rescape and plan the stock so that I can add more peaceful fish first let them get their own spaces and then add fish that is deemed more aggressive like someone suggested above

Good idea to start over. You will be able to have a lot more variety if you only choose peaceful fish.

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[Trx237]

Thank you to everyone for your input, I am going to order 25 lbs rock and try to come up with some stock lists based on all the suggestions you guys gave. As for the reef thing those 165 W lights look really good esp for the price, but my biggest problem is mounting since the tank isn't fully square on sides and the back is all filled with the filters &skimmer

 

[Easy E]

As for the reef thing those 165 W lights look really good esp for the price, but my biggest problem is mounting since the tank isn't fully square on sides and the back is all filled with the filters &skimmer

Most of those lights come with a mounting kit you can use to hang them from the ceiling.

 

[Trx237]

It really is a double edged sword trying to come up with what I want because I want this tank to have some personality but all the peaceful fish hide all day ,
So I was thinking 2 clowns a Midas or bicolor Blenny & either a royal gramma or orchid db. I maybe can fit another 1-2 fish but I'm not sure what cause I don't want it to be bullied. I ordered my rock and talked w lfs bout takin my tomato & six line
& I have to mount a light on the tank because I don't want to mess up ceiling

 

[Easy E]

all the peaceful fish hide all day

That is not true. Some peaceful fish may hide at first until they get used to the tank, but most will come out of hiding pretty quickly if they're not being harassed by their tankmates.

So I was thinking 2 clowns a Midas or bicolor Blenny & either a royal gramma or orchid db.

The fish you've chosen here are all categorized as peaceful, except the orchid db, which is semi-aggressive. For that reason, I would go with the gramma instead. If you want 2 clowns, do not get 2 adults or one could wind up bullying the other. You should choose the 2 smallest juvenile ocellaris you can find and add them at the same time. That way they likely become a mated pair as adults. But be aware that a mated pair can be very territorial when defending a potential nesting site, and could become aggressive towards the other fish in a tank that small. Just one clown would be better, especially if you're not planning on breeding them and getting another tank that's strictly dedicated to raising the fry. The fry require specialized care and feeding, and are not likely to survive in a community tank. All that said, the list you put together is pretty reasonable.

I have to mount a light on the tank because I don't want to mess up ceiling

You would only have to put 2 small eye bolts in the ceiling to mount the lights, but you would have to make sure they were sunk into solid wood. It wouldn't mess up the ceiling at all, and would only leave 2 small holes that could easily be covered up if you ever decided to remove the bolts. If that's not an option, you should probably forget about the 165W LED's. I don't think they make a mount for them that will fit on a tank like yours. Here is a link to a LED light that might work, but is probably not the best for growing corals in a tank that deep.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078SM3NY...V6&pd_rd_r=9XMXNK20G38X9NDX9H6B&pd_rd_w=RnZCz

 

[Trx237]

With only one clown it even frees up more stocking options,
As for lighting, Im not sure what to look into for that since the tank is so deep, I may not be able to have any corals on the bottom half because I don't want to have metal halides, was looking into AI but I don't know how much light will be enough