the coral dude
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got these froma friend that broke down his tank what are the names of them thanks
need some id on these zoos
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the coral dude
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bump come all some one has to help me id these any thoughts
MarvinsReef
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the coral dude
In Memoriam
looked thier cant find anything that resembles these
oddballs
In Memoriam
the problem with zoaid.com is ALOT of the zos are on there 2,3, sometimes 4 times and are all the same zo in diffrent stages of them acclimating to all the variations of lighting colors we use in our tanks and all named some crazy name that the others arent.the other thing is when a zo comes in from the wild it does not always end up looking how they finally do after being in higher or lower lighting in this guys metal halide tank,or in this ladys t 5 tank!my sis has t 5s i have pcs ,vhos and halides and some zos look COMPLETLY diffrent under the various lighting schemes that we have.not trying to be a know it all just pushing a point that zos dont always end up the same look!i have 3 or 4 blue colonys that came in a couple of weeks back that are a killer blue but under my pcs they turned a odd purple so i mooved them to my halide tank and know they are a killer neon blue after a week or so in the halide tank. anyone agree?
john76
Premium Member
^^agreed wholeheartedly... but never really felt like pointing it out... some of the dupes/light difs are really obvious but debating it would be pretty pointless as some folks would honestly not even know the difference or similarities. It's still a cool well run site though.
The zoos pictured above are on zoaid... Without looking off the top of my head I'm gonna say 1 - safecrackers /2- mixed and I don't know/ 3 - Sunburst
The zoos pictured above are on zoaid... Without looking off the top of my head I'm gonna say 1 - safecrackers /2- mixed and I don't know/ 3 - Sunburst
MinibowMatt
Active member
who really cares what their called? their zoanthus sp..
zoaid is a guide.. not the "end all to zoanthus sp. names" however most listed are different morphs, they may look similar, but if you ask the guys at zoaid they will tell you that many people are involved in the authenticating on a "new name" before it goes on the site. if the consensus is it is a different morph, and not just a lighting variation, they put it up...
zoaid is a guide.. not the "end all to zoanthus sp. names" however most listed are different morphs, they may look similar, but if you ask the guys at zoaid they will tell you that many people are involved in the authenticating on a "new name" before it goes on the site. if the consensus is it is a different morph, and not just a lighting variation, they put it up...
Matt: I've seen you respond to different posts on the zoanthid section and they're all pretty negative, why not try to help people identify the "common name" to whatever they've got, instead of blowing them off everytime with the same answer? from the title of this thread i think he already knows they are zoanthus polyps...
MinibowMatt
Active member
Lionel--
because if you read the other Id threads.. it gets really tirting to see all of the stupid ID threads. who really cares what person A calls them. they are in his tank and he can call them whatever he wants. Naming has gotten out of hand, and more than half of these people just want a name so they can sell them or ebay them at some outragous price.
If a person really likes them, does it matter what they are called?
because if you read the other Id threads.. it gets really tirting to see all of the stupid ID threads. who really cares what person A calls them. they are in his tank and he can call them whatever he wants. Naming has gotten out of hand, and more than half of these people just want a name so they can sell them or ebay them at some outragous price.
If a person really likes them, does it matter what they are called?
the coral dude
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guys i was trying to figure out what type they are for my own i just started collecting zoos and wanted to know no need to fight about we are all here to help each other out thanks
enitnelaVeyaF
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all zoanthids need the same care. naming them is just a way people sell them. if you didnt buy them as a named morph im sure you paid 1/2 of what they would cost if they were named.
MinibowMatt
Active member
no. not everything needs a name.
although I do have some LE Super Green Dynasty Spaghetti Cheatomorpha... but that deserves a name, its sooo green!
jasutton
New member
naming is a label to know what you have. a description. Their worth has nothing to do with their name, it has to do with natural macroeconimic functions such as buy and demand, and all that boring stuff. You could sell it for the same amount with just a picture. The name does not equal worth, rather its the piece itself that equals the worth. Look at diamonds, you are telling me that its the name rather than the piece that determines the worth of diamonds? please...
naming is just a tool that we humans apply to everything. A very useful tool i might add
naming is just a tool that we humans apply to everything. A very useful tool i might add
cerreta
Premium Member
Hey, fair arguments here. I too am curious to naming zoos. Not for the purpose of creating a trendy name, although I do it because it is fun and entertaining for the family to make names up.
However, I do it to notice the slight variations between color morphs and patterns. I came up with a method to identifying zoanthids and it is a work in progress. I am using this simple but comprehensive system to go through and ID all the lil zoo colonies I own.
Let me know what you all think.
Zoanthid Identification:
To ID zoos I created my own system of classification in order to simplify the arduous process.
I will use brand names when they are known. When not, I will refer to the ID list and create my own trendy names. Regardless of brand name, the classification will still be implemented to ID the color and type of Zoanthid species.
Colors will be described in order from mouth to skirt. In case of double colors as in a ring fashion, they will be listed from inside to outside.
Four criteria:
M: Mouth
C: Center
CR: Center Ring (when available)
S: Skirt
Common names used to ID specific patterns:
“Fade†identifies fading colors in centers only; they will be listed from inside to outside.
“Double†identifies dual colors in skirts only. This means two-tones of the same color, or listed from inside to outside for different colors.
“Amped†identifies long tentacle skirts.
“Stubby†identifies short, and / or fat skirts.
“Alien Eye†identifies zoos that have an intense mouth color that extends into the center with the same color although color intensity may lighten slightly.
“Eagle Eye†identifies zoos that have one mouth color and two different center ring colors.
“Crush†identifies zoos that have the same basic color for the mouth, center, and skirt.
“Rainbow†identifies two or more different colored Zoanthid species within the same colony.
“Starburst†identifies a separate color that radiates from mouth to skirt in a star pattern.
“Galaxy†identifies polka-dots of contrasting color somewhere in the center.
“Striated†will be listed for obvious striations that run from the mouth to skirt.
“Metallica†identifies a metallic appearance of vibrant contrasting color that runs along striations from mouth to skirt.
“Donut†identifies two distinct circles of contrasting color one in mouth and one in center.
However, I do it to notice the slight variations between color morphs and patterns. I came up with a method to identifying zoanthids and it is a work in progress. I am using this simple but comprehensive system to go through and ID all the lil zoo colonies I own.
Let me know what you all think.
Zoanthid Identification:
To ID zoos I created my own system of classification in order to simplify the arduous process.
I will use brand names when they are known. When not, I will refer to the ID list and create my own trendy names. Regardless of brand name, the classification will still be implemented to ID the color and type of Zoanthid species.
Colors will be described in order from mouth to skirt. In case of double colors as in a ring fashion, they will be listed from inside to outside.
Four criteria:
M: Mouth
C: Center
CR: Center Ring (when available)
S: Skirt
Common names used to ID specific patterns:
“Fade†identifies fading colors in centers only; they will be listed from inside to outside.
“Double†identifies dual colors in skirts only. This means two-tones of the same color, or listed from inside to outside for different colors.
“Amped†identifies long tentacle skirts.
“Stubby†identifies short, and / or fat skirts.
“Alien Eye†identifies zoos that have an intense mouth color that extends into the center with the same color although color intensity may lighten slightly.
“Eagle Eye†identifies zoos that have one mouth color and two different center ring colors.
“Crush†identifies zoos that have the same basic color for the mouth, center, and skirt.
“Rainbow†identifies two or more different colored Zoanthid species within the same colony.
“Starburst†identifies a separate color that radiates from mouth to skirt in a star pattern.
“Galaxy†identifies polka-dots of contrasting color somewhere in the center.
“Striated†will be listed for obvious striations that run from the mouth to skirt.
“Metallica†identifies a metallic appearance of vibrant contrasting color that runs along striations from mouth to skirt.
“Donut†identifies two distinct circles of contrasting color one in mouth and one in center.
cerreta
Premium Member
I started this thread before I saw this one. Go here for samples and further discussion on this ID method.
Again, this is a simple method to consistently ID color morphs and common patterns of zoanthid species. It is not used to differentiate actual zoanthid species names (taxonomy).
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=906443
Again, this is a simple method to consistently ID color morphs and common patterns of zoanthid species. It is not used to differentiate actual zoanthid species names (taxonomy).
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=906443
newhere
New member
the coral dude
It looks like you got some very nice zoanthids. Most zoanthids have different names due to each store calling them different names, or each person that gets frags from the same colony.
MinibowMatt
I see that you are a HS Teacher. Is this the same way you treat the people you teach if they ask the same questions others have asked in the past. If he had posted 10 different times to get names for 10 different zoanthids it might be understandable to be irritated. If you are so sick of the “stupid ID threadsâ€Â, then why do you keep posting on them? You are taking your frustration out on anyone that asks for an ID. If you don't have anything good to say then don't post. Everyone has asked questions at one time or another the most we can do is try to help.
It looks like you got some very nice zoanthids. Most zoanthids have different names due to each store calling them different names, or each person that gets frags from the same colony.
MinibowMatt
I see that you are a HS Teacher. Is this the same way you treat the people you teach if they ask the same questions others have asked in the past. If he had posted 10 different times to get names for 10 different zoanthids it might be understandable to be irritated. If you are so sick of the “stupid ID threadsâ€Â, then why do you keep posting on them? You are taking your frustration out on anyone that asks for an ID. If you don't have anything good to say then don't post. Everyone has asked questions at one time or another the most we can do is try to help.
