New 20 Gallon! Help me Out

MongoRed86

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I have just started my 20 gallon. Its been up for maybe a month and a half so far. i have changed the water once. I just got the 3 damsels. ive had the marron clown for a month. also just got the feather duster. i was told that its good 2 be in this club. as you guys would help me out alot more then bein in the main forum. I was also told bout sum corals that are good for my tank.

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This is Mongo!

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You should do 20% water change. You can have many corals, but whats your lighting and filtration?
 
i have stock lighting. nothing special. it came as a deal 40$ for a filter 20gallon tank and light. so im guessing its a cheap light. im looking to make this a fish tank tho. i will start a coral tank later down the line
 
Lol. I pointed you here for the locals to help out... and who stops by, but someone from freakin sydney austrailia... Jeepers...

Either way, glad you found this forum, and I hope you check out some of the stickies and some of the other threads.

Welcome to the FMAS boards!
 
I read up on that site u gave me. so i guess i should get my water tested every week at my LFS. how long does a cycle usually take?
 
depends on whether your LR was cured or uncured
uncured up to 2 months, cured, as short as 3 days. Depends how your rock came to you and stuff.
 
I would get rid of the domino and blue damsels before you become too attached to them.
20gal is too small an area for 3 damsels.
Yes, clownfish are also part of the damsel family and can get just as territorial if not more so than other damsels... especially maroons.
(Beautiful maroon btw.)
Yes, there are a few success stories from people with established damsels and no troubles (I have a blue damsel and a clown in a 10gal.), but the odds are weighted against you if you ever decide to add any other fish in the future.

You definitely need more live rock... especially if you're going to have multiple fish in a 20.
I can already see algae growing on your sand.
I would also get a small sandsifting goby like a rainfordi, or even a juvenile bullet, diamond, or sleeper goby to keep your sand nice and white.

What kind of clean-up crew do you have?
For that size tank I would think a minimum of 10 snails, 5 hermits, a couple of emerald crabs, and a shrimp or two.
More would probably be better depending on your feeding habits, filtration, sump/fuge/macro setup.

Definitely add at least 1 powerhead to get some circulation in that tank.
Looks like tons of dead, stagnant areas that are just begging to grow some cyano or other nuisance algae.
The benificial nitrifying bacteria on your rocks and sand can only filter the water that actually moves over them.
No circulation, no filtration.

I might be a little biased because of my latest purchase, but I would recommend getting a Hydor Koralia #1 from Patrick at ReefLife while he still has them on sale.
A single Koralia #1 will get flow to every corner of your tank without making a sandstorm and for under $30 to boot.
If you're a little tight on cash I can loan you a couple of my old powerheads till you get something better.

If you're not going to add a fuge or a skimmer to that tank anytime in the near future then I would advise putting some macroalgae in the tank, and doing the 20% water changes weekly that someone else mentioned earlier in the thread.
If you do add a fuge and/or skimmer then you can probably cut down your weekly water changes to 10%.

What's the stock lighting that came with that hood?
Is it incandescent or fluorescent?
Depending on the wattage of the bulbs you might be able to grow some mushrooms and zoas without upgrading your lights.
Of course, if you can upgrade, all the better.
Lighting is the largest limiting factor outside of physical tank size in this hobby.

Whoever steered you over here did the right thing by you.
This is a great bunch of guys and gals, and they're more than willing to bend over backwards to help out a local member.
Everyone I've met in FMAS has been a godsend.
I wouldn't be halfway to where I am without all the sage advise and super generosity from everyone I've met here.

Welcome to the club! :D
 
wow. that is alot of help. i will be sure to go into my lfs tomarrow. maybe i can trade my damsles for a goby. seein as i got all 3 for 10.00$. i will be getting a check friday so i have 2 check out that
Hydor Koralia. where exactly is ReefLife? im still looking for a store that will take care of me and not just try to get a sale. thanks for the info. do u have any pics of the gobys?
 
Rainfordi Goby (Court Jester Goby)
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Gold Headed Sleeper Goby
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Bullet Goby
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Diamond Goby
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ReefLife is down south of you at Pine Island Rd. and Griffin Rd.
8698 Griffin Road
Awesome shop and owner if you're ever down in the area.
Patrick gives the best deals I've seen at any store in town and has a gorgeous selection. (if you can get there before the rest of us. LOL)

Since you're up in Pompano tho, there's a great fish shop right next to you.
You can't go wrong over at Eco-Reef off of Atlantic at the intercostal in the Bealls shopping plaza on the south side of Atl. blvd.
2740 E Atlantic Blvd.
The owner is a former president of FMAS and is more of a fellow hobbyist than a business owner.
Roger and Larry will treat you right, and if you join the club you'll get a discount on everything you buy there.
Like I said, you can't go wrong.
:D
 
WELCOME!!

I would definitely add a fuge to the tank. It will help balance pH and get rid of your algae problem. More rock will definitely be a big help as well.
If you do not want to go all out and invest a whole bunch in an elaborate fuge you can build a simple small one from an AquaClear Hang on Back filter. The mod is really simple and works great. i have used these before on other small tanks and I highly recommend it. You can probably pick up a used one here on the forums or get one online. For macro you can more than likely get some from somebody in the club. I have some if you need :)
As mentioned above increasing the flow rate inside the tank will also help with some of the algae problem.
Since the tank is not running a skimmer then regular weekly water changes should be made, the amount of water change may depend on the bioload in the tank. Remember the 20 is "small" and will be affected more easily by change than say a larger tank.
Clean up crew will help you out a bunch too. Just remember this hobby is more of an investment LOL. Everything takes time and lots of patience. Just don't rush and you will get there gradually,
everyone here is more than helpful and I am sure you will be fine.

-Mike-
 
all you guys have been great. i think im going into my LFS today to get my water tested and see if they do trades with fish. gotta find out bout powerheads as well. not 2 mention talk bout FMAS.considering an ex president owns the store.
 
John great stuff.....Mongo....yu are definately in the right place.

The key is to go slow.....and gather info before you spend money.....
 
I thought that sounded like the Eco Reef 20 gal aquarium special! It's a great deal. I got a 20 from them...you can check out my setup here:

Upgrading from 15 to 20 Gal.

It's a great size tank and you can set it up as elaborately as you want (or not). Just about everyone here on ReefCentral will give you good advice, also Robert & Larry at Eco Reef, so don't hesitate to ask questions!

Good luck! I look forward to seeing your progress...welcome to the 20 Gallon Club!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9475687#post9475687 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by newreefbishop
.....and gather info before you spend money.....
gather info and gather money... because the more you have of both, the better. ;)
 
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