new apex user

[fishymann]

haha Russ thankfully a sledgehammer hasn't became a thought ... yet. I am willing to allow this to "own" me for a few days before I get it under control. It seems as though it should be simple but man even with an awesome user guide knowing the right stuff is tricky.

 

[swearint]

I want it to turn on every 6 hours for 3 minutes only if switch6 is closed, if switch 6 is closed and the ATO is turned on i want it to stay on 30 seconds after the switch6 is open. if my mainpump is off I want the ATO to be off (this probably isn't needed but for some reason I felt it was a good failsafe)

Now, here is my code

Fallback OFF
Set OFF
If Outlet Mainpump = OFF Then OFF
OSC 000:00/003:00/360:00 Then ON
If Switch6 CLOSED Then OFF
Defer 000:40 Then OFF

This doesn't match up with your intentions. You stated that the ATO should be ON when Switch6 is CLOSED, but you have it set to OFF. Keep in mind that the Apex executes top to bottom, so later code has higher priority. Currently, you have the Mainpump condition at a very low priority and it can be overridden by the OSC. The basic approach is to set the most common/normal behavior first and then set the exceptions.

If I understand correctly:

You only want the ATO to run within a three minute window every six hours, but only if needed based on Switch6? And then run an additional 30 seconds beyond the 'shut off point', to basically overfill it slightly? If so then this will require a virtual outlet:

[ATO_Allow]
OSC 000:00/003:00/360:00 Then ON

[ATO]
Fallback OFF
Set OFF
If Switch6 CLOSED Then ON
If Outlet ATO_Allow = OFF Then OFF
If Outlet Mainpump = OFF Then OFF
Defer 000:30 Then OFF

The float will attempt to turn ATO ON when the sump is low. But, if ATO_Allow is OFF (ie outside the allowable time slot), then ATO is kept OFF. The Defer will run the ATO for an additional 30 seconds before turning OFF. The drawback here is that Defer applies to the whole outlet, not a specific condition. So if ATO happens to be ON and Mainpump turns OFF, ATO won't turn OFF until the delay expires.

Todd

 

[fishymann]

so [ATO_Allow] i have to make as a virtual outlet?

 

[swearint]

Yes.

Todd

 

[fishymann]

Great thank you!

 

[fishymann]

I've been trying for the last two days to get a setup to work with virtual outlets. I want a powerhead to be controlled via the OSC command. I made up two different virtual outlets. a NightPH and a DayPH each one with their own time parameters and their own OSC parameters. My problem is, is that I can only seem to get the outlet to be controlled by one of the commands, not both. For example once NightPH has finished its cycle the PH will just remain off and not turn on via the DayPH (although the virtual outlet is infact on.)

Here is the code, I know the issue is that I have each one telling it to turn on but how would I do this correctly?
Fallback OFF
If Outlet Dayph = ON Then ON
If Outlet Dayph = OFF Then OFF
If outlet NightPH = on then on
if outlet NightPH = off ten off
If Temp > 84.0 Then OFF

 

[kayl]

I've been trying for the last two days to get a setup to work with virtual outlets. I want a powerhead to be controlled via the OSC command. I made up two different virtual outlets. a NightPH and a DayPH each one with their own time parameters and their own OSC parameters. My problem is, is that I can only seem to get the outlet to be controlled by one of the commands, not both. For example once NightPH has finished its cycle the PH will just remain off and not turn on via the DayPH (although the virtual outlet is infact on.)

Here is the code, I know the issue is that I have each one telling it to turn on but how would I do this correctly?
Fallback OFF
If Outlet Dayph = ON Then ON
If Outlet Dayph = OFF Then OFF
If outlet NightPH = on then on
if outlet NightPH = off ten off
If Temp > 84.0 Then OFF

The apex evaluates program statements from top to bottom.

If NightPH is off, then the outlet will always be off, since that statement is evaluated last.

Try this:

Fallback OFF
Set OFF
If Outlet Dayph = ON Then ON
If outlet NightPH = on then on
If Temp > 84.0 Then OFF

 

[fishymann]

thanks Kayl i will try that. I keep trying so many combinations of things that I forget what i have and haven't tried. Makes it tempting to just get a vortech and say forget it all...