New Coral Farm build in Oz
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the808state
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It sucks, but i can see where they are coming from. $500 a month or no pictures! LOL
Wow... this is quite the thread. Know of a few fraggers up here in the frigid north but most of them are chop shops 
Think we may have found an aquaculture supplier of Calgary. Now that is a nasty place to set up shop... -40C during winter 
I noticed you mentioned export to Canada. I do know that our import laws are somwhat strict (although not as strict as Austalia's) and I hear the LFS around me complaining about the CITES paperwork. You may want to get somone over here to give you thr rundown on export to Canada.
By the way, have you thought of MAC Certification?
Think we may have found an aquaculture supplier of Calgary. Now that is a nasty place to set up shop... -40C during winter I noticed you mentioned export to Canada. I do know that our import laws are somwhat strict (although not as strict as Austalia's) and I hear the LFS around me complaining about the CITES paperwork. You may want to get somone over here to give you thr rundown on export to Canada.
By the way, have you thought of MAC Certification?
motopsycho
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There are only a few aquaculture shops in Canada, one being local to Toronto. You are correct, the majority are chop shops.
Importing cultured corals are okay in certain circumstances. Most of the issues I have had is when the coral is attached to what would appear as rock from the ocean or free floating. Have never had an issue with corals attached to plugs.
MAC certification is irrelevant if they are into the farming. They are not pulling from the ocean and selling that coral, only the growth from captivity, am I correct BDepp ?
Very nice build BDepp
Importing cultured corals are okay in certain circumstances. Most of the issues I have had is when the coral is attached to what would appear as rock from the ocean or free floating. Have never had an issue with corals attached to plugs.
MAC certification is irrelevant if they are into the farming. They are not pulling from the ocean and selling that coral, only the growth from captivity, am I correct BDepp ?
Very nice build BDepp
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15620028#post15620028 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Ross.C
Wow... this is quite the thread. Know of a few fraggers up here in the frigid north but most of them are chop shops
I noticed you mentioned export to Canada. I do know that our import laws are somwhat strict (although not as strict as Austalia's) and I hear the LFS around me complaining about the CITES paperwork. You may want to get somone over here to give you thr rundown on export to Canada.
By the way, have you thought of MAC Certification?
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15625155#post15625155 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by motopsycho
There are only a few aquaculture shops in Canada, one being local to Toronto. You are correct, the majority are chop shops.
Importing cultured corals are okay in certain circumstances. Most of the issues I have had is when the coral is attached to what would appear as rock from the ocean or free floating. Have never had an issue with corals attached to plugs.
MAC certification is irrelevant if they are into the farming. They are not pulling from the ocean and selling that coral, only the growth from captivity, am I correct BDepp ?
Very nice build BDepp
Actually MAC certification is relavant for all levels of the trade. From the individuals right through the whole process to the LFS.
As for an aquaculture facility in Toronto, I would dearly love to know who?
motopsycho
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Under The C
Why... because they set a standard that people in hobby understand, and such certification can open doors for sales down the road. Before you argue about certification, all professionals, many industries and the like are certified for whatever standards they need to be held accountable for. Such certifications are what help consumers at various levels know who and what they are dealing with.
My appologies to the OP for the slight derail.
To motophoto, I have heard about them, both good and bad, so right now am being cautious.
bdepp
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We have an aquaculture licence over here but you don't legally need one. I think it's a good idea over here. Not sure what your MAC is. we got told very early on that we should grow all our corals on plugs incase we were going to export them. Would love a rundown on exporting.
Our import laws are very clear... you can't import ANY corals. fish however are ok. This sucks because we can only get corals off the barrier reef and can't get any of the maricultured from fiji or the islands. it means we are killing more of our reef everyday. thus wwhy aquaculturing is so important.
We have a number of chop shops over here too. One guy almost proudly states that he's a chop shop. I'd like to see them all go out of business personally.
Our import laws are very clear... you can't import ANY corals. fish however are ok
. This sucks because we can only get corals off the barrier reef and can't get any of the maricultured from fiji or the islands. it means we are killing more of our reef everyday. thus wwhy aquaculturing is so important.We have a number of chop shops over here too. One guy almost proudly states that he's a chop shop. I'd like to see them all go out of business personally.
motopsycho
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That is very sad to hear BDepp, I heard that Aus was very stict but didn't realize it was zero coral imports.
It's the same here in Canada, importing on a plug it is much easier to bring in as well as shipping to the US.
The only way for these chop shops to change the way they do business is a cultural change with fellow hobbyist. I have frags for $20 CAD that are cultured yet a chop shop sells the same for $10 CAD. I see many individual where it's all about getting more coral for the $
It's the same here in Canada, importing on a plug it is much easier to bring in as well as shipping to the US.
The only way for these chop shops to change the way they do business is a cultural change with fellow hobbyist. I have frags for $20 CAD that are cultured yet a chop shop sells the same for $10 CAD. I see many individual where it's all about getting more coral for the $
bdepp
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done and done phorton
we've just got ourselves a new stockist who is a diver and he likes us. the biggest bonus is that he's got amazing acan's.
for those of you out there who don't know, we dont get acan's in this country,, even though they are all from here They get sent straight over to you guys in the States and we don't even get to see any of them. it's very sad. i love acan's and fell in love with them when i first saw my first lord howe. it then took me almost a year till one of the many stores i used to go to had one.
But i have that issue no longer and i now have a tank full of acan's. yes full!
we are still having massive issues with calcium and alkalinity in our main acro prop tank. i think we have to spend the dollars and get a calcium reactor. the 2 part just isn't working as well as i beleive it should.
we've also finished our first major silicon mould of frag plugs, so we are making hundreds every week now.
All our systems are going now and it's time to start growing some acro frags!
Depp
we've just got ourselves a new stockist who is a diver and he likes us. the biggest bonus is that he's got amazing acan's.
for those of you out there who don't know, we dont get acan's in this country,, even though they are all from here
They get sent straight over to you guys in the States and we don't even get to see any of them. it's very sad. i love acan's and fell in love with them when i first saw my first lord howe. it then took me almost a year till one of the many stores i used to go to had one.But i have that issue no longer and i now have a tank full of acan's. yes full!
we are still having massive issues with calcium and alkalinity in our main acro prop tank. i think we have to spend the dollars and get a calcium reactor. the 2 part just isn't working as well as i beleive it should.
we've also finished our first major silicon mould of frag plugs, so we are making hundreds every week now.
All our systems are going now and it's time to start growing some acro frags!
Depp
MrPike
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I have an aquaculture facility here in the states. We have quite lot of coral as well. Each system roughly 800 gallons. We utilize two part for all of our dosing needs and its really cheap and is effective.
I was wondering what type of two part you were dosing that wasn't keeping up? Is it DIY or a commercial supplement?
I was wondering what type of two part you were dosing that wasn't keeping up? Is it DIY or a commercial supplement?
bdepp
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I'm not exactly sure what our Mg is. i really need to get a test kit. i don't think that's the problem but you never know
Our main issue is with kH. it drops like a stone.
The 2 part we use is DIY but to be honest it isn't done very well. i really need some help on this so any is very appreciated.
Our main issue is with kH. it drops like a stone.
The 2 part we use is DIY but to be honest it isn't done very well. i really need some help on this so any is very appreciated.
Sorry to hear that Acans are a difficult item for you guys to get, honestly I am surprised. The LFS here almost always have Aussie Acans in stock. Mind you the craze for them here is dying down. Good choice on growing them on plugs. I know the CFIA has an issue with importing stock on live rock due to organisms. Strangely enough our Food Inspection Agency has controll over the ornamental import/export trade here... LOL
Keep the updates comming...
Keep the updates comming...
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