New Lumen Bright Reflector. ... any info on them

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11369679#post11369679 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by gigiba
My tank is 92x27x24 (LxWxH). Should I go large or mini? and how high should I mount it?

I am planning to get 4 of these reflectors.

TIA

You can get away with 4 minis. That is one reflector every 23 inches on your tank if spaced in perportion. I have mine positioned about 22" apart on my 180. I don't think you would even have to raise them any higher than 15 inches and have plenty spread. Are you going to run 400s or 250s?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11369851#post11369851 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JRaquatics
You can get away with 4 minis. That is one reflector every 23 inches on your tank if spaced in perportion. I have mine positioned about 22" apart on my 180. I don't think you would even have to raise them any higher than 15 inches and have plenty spread. Are you going to run 400s or 250s?

250s. Thanks
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11369512#post11369512 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ganjero
open tank, planning to use them as pendants

good idea;) Even less heat and plenty of air circulation. I think you will find that your fan or fans will hardly have to come on. I am going to do a test with my current Lumenmax reflector by Sunlight Supply(7" ultra mini) which I usually keep at 8"-9" off the water. My fan currently comes on 10 minutes after the light comes on using an RK2. I am confident that when I swap out with a new LumenBright mini set at 14" that my fan will come on 2-4 hours after the light comes on just like it does in my main display.

As qouted by jnarowe, "I think the LB would fry a 20" deep tank." I could not agree more if you set these reflectors with bulbs 8"-9" off the water with a 250w or 400w bulb. This has been the crtical point since the beginning of this thread. These reflectors are really strong. :eek1: From all of the tests I have done under both Lumenarcs and Lumenbrights, I can honestly say the difference in intensity is not 16% but more like 30%-35%. Lumenarcs were not meant to be so high off a tank. And in fact Lumenarcs were not even designed for the reefkeeping hobby but for agriculture.

The LumenBright reflector was designed specifically for the reefkeeping hobby with historical knowledge of all the heat issues reefkeepers have faced with many reflector choices that need to be so close to the surface of the water. The point in designing these reflectors was to keep the bulb away from the water but still add some punch to anything available to reefkeepers today.

Glixtrix showed some impressive numbers with 3-175w bulbs 11" off the water. If he raises them 1" or 2" he will have great numbers still and not have to worry about frying his tank as we are talking about 175w bulbs.

Ganjero, for your application, having them 14"-16" with 16" being optimal for your 5ft tank - you will not have any problems at all with frying coral and have plenty of light from 2 -250w bulbs depending upon the manufacturer of the bulb and ballast combination. Because you will have an open system, you wil have the luxury of easily raising and lowering your reflectors to see for yourself what is optimal also knowing that by raising a LumenBright you don't have to worry about losing so much PAR as it still will drive the light into your tank.

I have been hearing a lot of talk on RC about frying coral and I have to ask myself why so many reefkeepers are having trouble? Is it their water quality? There temp swings dramatically? They have very little flow? They don't feed their coral enough? There bulbs are so close to the water? and probably most importantly are they patient enough to wait 2-3 weeks to slowly move that coral up into the water column where the PAR will certainly increase to assure they don't bleach their coral.

With patience and an understanding of the specific coral in your tank, you can properly acclimate a coral to be able to show multiple colors like this quad or quintcolor mille that is 20" away from the bulb as well as all these other coral on this pillar. In my opinion, lack of patience will fry you ;)

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Jim I still have not had to turn on my fans yet. I have an increase of 1-1.5 degrees at the end of the photoperiod at a room temp of 78. I am still amazed everytime I reach into my tank and think, I wouldn't be able to do this with any other reflector without removing the canopy. There is not a day goes by that I don't regret getting rid of my Lumenarcs.
 
all these numbers are using a 400w right? will they be also "superior" with 250w?

btw where did everyone buy theirs?

thanks
 
The numbers over my tank were with 3 - 250 watters.

I got mine from Reef Specialty 773-851-3861.
Great service and a pleasure to speak with.
 
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I'll go as far as to say the numbers are "superior" with 175's too! Check a look at my PAR readings....and my tank is 24" deep as well.
 
The only thing that worries me is something that somebody mentioned too, I dont like canopies and this umbrella looking reflectors are ugly to just have them hanging. I now they can be more effective but the pendants for the lumeracs are convincing me to get those.
It's a hard decision
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11371210#post11371210 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ganjero
The only thing that worries me is something that somebody mentioned too, I dont like canopies and this umbrella looking reflectors are ugly to just have them hanging. I now they can be more effective but the pendants for the lumeracs are convincing me to get those.
It's a hard decision

It really would be a decision you will have to make yourself. Personally I don't think the raw reflector looks bad at all. As you can see mine are placed above my canopy. The only real reason I am using a canopy is to keep the jumpers in and to cover my beat up trim.

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11371210#post11371210 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ganjero
The only thing that worries me is something that somebody mentioned too, I dont like canopies and this umbrella looking reflectors are ugly to just have them hanging. I now they can be more effective but the pendants for the lumeracs are convincing me to get those.
It's a hard decision

I'm fighting the same delima right now, I really don't want to wreck the sleekness of the office my tank is in....
 
bubbletip2

How high would I have to place the minis above a 265?

Dimensions are 84x24x30

Will be using three reflectors running 250W 12K Reeflux.

TIA
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11370411#post11370411 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ganjero
all these numbers are using a 400w right? will they be also "superior" with 250w?

btw where did everyone buy theirs?

thanks

I got mine from Mike and www.reefspecialty.com or call him at 773.851-3861

You wont beat the price nor the customer service.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11371757#post11371757 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by gary faulkner
bubbletip2

How high would I have to place the minis above a 265?

Dimensions are 84x24x30

Will be using three reflectors running 250W 12K Reeflux.

TIA

If your dimensions are 84lx24wx30h than I would say 14"-16" bulb to the water so a canopy of at leat 22" will allow for coral growth down the line. You will have to test and see - you may be fine with 14". Mike L.'s(Acropora Nut's) tank is 32" wide and 30" tall and he gets plenty of light 14.5" from bulb to the water. You have a 7ft tank so going up to 15" or 16" might be optimal. Just have to try it out ;) I would go with a 24" canopy if you can just to have the space and that would allow 18" bulb placement which should be plenty of room for most systems fully grown.

Hope that helps :thumbsup:
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11371839#post11371839 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bubbletip2
If your dimensions are 84lx24wx30h than I would say 14"-16" bulb to the water so a canopy of at leat 22" will allow for coral growth down the line. You will have to test and see - you may be fine with 14". Mike L.'s(Acropora Nut's) tank is 32" wide and 30" tall and he gets plenty of light 14.5" from bulb to the water. You have a 7ft tank so going up to 15" or 16" might be optimal. Just have to try it out ;) I would go with a 24" canopy if you can just to have the space and that would allow 18" bulb placement which should be plenty of room for most systems fully grown.

Hope that helps :thumbsup:

Helps a bunch and thanks.

I was initially concerned about such a large canopy but I think it will look OK. This is a pretty massive tank anyway and my wife already said "That tank is too big" Too late to turn back now!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11371441#post11371441 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by salmon alley
Not if you're using a lower PAR bulb.

I thought the point was to get more light?
 
Your not going to burn your corals if you use good acclimation meathods. Mike Acropora nut has corals right under the light and they look amazing. No burns.
 
Frank - great to see your new lights up and running finally. I can't wait to see it in person. I just order myself a lumenbright 250W with 12k reeflux, can't wait to get it in. Thanks Mike!
 
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