To be honest I dont know, It was part of a package deal shipped from cali. I bought mohawks, stickys, vdms, and a nightmare. I darn near cooked them under my halide too. I think the nightmare is a lost cause and the vdms stayed closed for 2 and a half days. The sticky punch wasnt bothered by the 10k halide at all. The guy also threw in another frag of about 10 polyps that havent opened yet either. My fault though I forgot the halide was on a timer, came home and found them cooked :-(