I would like to say that those of you that are still getting together to have fun - go for it, if you want to check us out, please do. Yes I heard that the Susquehanna club was just a bunch of friends that get together and that some of them had just gotten back from a great time at MACNA and weren't sure when they were getting together. I checked the Admas County area, South of Hanover toward MD (only found Mr. Coral), Lancaster - found a freshwater group. Sorry I guess I wanted something more structured that has regular monthly meetings. That is my main focus on starting this group. Yes my son has been very active with postings as I have, and he and I didn't communicate about the Susq. club - SORRY. he has apologized in this thread many times. Hey let's get over it - and go check out our tanks. As one of the above threads said, isn't this all about having fun. One last time, sorry about stepping on toes and hurting feeling.. We didn't mean to, that was never our intention. Hey let's crack open a cold one and sit back watch our "reefs" grow and have fun. Elaine