New reef tank LIGHTING SYSTEN question

BlackBorre

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Hello reefers.

So, my very first saltwater tank is still in the cycling stage and while I'm waiting for it to establish good nitrifying bacteria I'm doing my research on the lighting system I'm gonna get.
Since not every tank is the same i cant seem to find the answer I'm looking for, so I decided to ask you, the experts....
What would be my best option of lighting for my tank? , it is a 30 gallon (slowly but surely one day will become a reef aquarium) it is 36x13x16 and I want a light fixture capable of grow any coral (lps, sps, anemones, etc...) (again, eventually) ??

Thank you folks.
 
There are many led options available. Really depends on what you want. I personally use the Kessil a360 and have no problem keeping lps and sps. For your use I would get a Kessil a350 or a150. Or if you wanted a more programmable light, look in the Ecotech radions or al vegas. These are your most popular leds and I've personally seem examples with all of them capable of growing lps and sps. You could go the cheaper route and get a reefbreaders led which I haven't seen personally but some people have had success with them. It really comes down to how much money you want spend and what kind of features you want. As I mentioned earlier, I'm using a Kessil a360we and love it. I personally prefer it more than the radion or any other fixture but that's just my opinion. Not saying I don't like the radion or any other light I just like the way the kessil performs and the amazing shimmer.
 
Really depends on your budget. They can range anywhere from $200 to $600 per fixture. Kessils are nice and I'm running a A360 on my tank, but you'll need two to cover the 36" length. Two A150's might work, but they don't offer any dimming options at the moment.
 
I have an aquaillumination vega on my 30g, a reef breeder's photon on my 56g, and two aquaillumination hydras on my 90g. For the price the reef breeder light is quite nice. I can't explain exactly why but the ai lights seem much better visually. More natural. The color, the control, the effects, and most importantly the livestock likes them better.

I seem to have more problems with nuisance algae in the tank with the photon. I bought the vega then the reefbreeder and after plenty of time to experience both, the hydras were an easy choice for my 90.

Ai can also be an economical solution for a couple reasons. For one a hydra or hydra 52 would be enough for your tank if set at the right height with the right lenses. Secondly and my favorite thing about ai lights is that they are completely modular. This means all parts use plug in connections and are user serviceable.

On another good note, I purchased my vega about 3 years ago as a preorder before they were released. Since then they have come out with the hydra, hydra 52, and now the hydra 26. They offer upgrade kits that are all 299 to upgrade any light to the latest technology. So my 700 dollar pair of refurbished hydras could be upgraded to 52s for 600 bucks. That's about the price of the 52s new totalled and I can wait until I can afford the upgrade and get whatever the best light they offer at that time.

As I'm writing I realize this sounds like a sales pitch for ai. I am just a hobbiest and like to share my knowledge. And forget the ecotech bandwagon, if you can't tell I love my ai lights. Joking aside ecotech makes a great product. I would discuss how they compare but I'm not familiar with the newest one. I heard that the new one has 30w white leds. Scary with how easy it is to fry corals with the 5w led chips on the ai lights, but I'm sure they have a super wide lens to compensate.

At a more basic level, any light with 3w leds in the range of 100 watts total power should support the light demands of anything you want to keep at any level in a shallow tank like yours. Reefbreeders only have blue and white but it's the right royal blue to make corals pop. About the same color as the royals on ai. The other colors are more for us than the inhabitants. Yes they help give a more full spectrum but mostly just make everything look WAY better.

I know kessil is also gaining popularity but I know almost nothing about them except they have a very modern look hanging above a tank. You also have the option to go really cheap chinese for 1-200 dollars. Probably not the best long term solution but would get you going much cheaper. Not likely to support sps or last though.

Diy leds are the best budget option. They can be a simple set up or can be even better than the best manufactured fixtures depending on your abilities and budget. Guess you just need to decide what's best for you.

In this hobby it's hard to define what the best choice is because it can be much different from one person to another depending on your goals, constraints, and the rest of your setup. Good luck and I hope you get everything figured out!
 
And after all that I still forgot something. There are a lot of other options for leds now than there used to be so make sure you explore other options too. I just mentioned the most popular choices from when I was where you are now a few years ago.
 
thank you very much for your response guys, it really helps lots...

@dthorn : the more i search and read and ask the more i end up with the same conclusion at the end of the day, "Aqua Illumination" (not because i believe they are the best or so but because this would be my best option to go with) like you said; not every set up is like the other, i just have another question for you if i may... what im thinking is to go with either the Hydra or the Hydra 52, so, is the Hydra not enough? would the 52 be too much? is it worth spend the extra couple bucks and get the 52? and my budget is around those two fixtures...
thank you.
 
I know one of the hydras is rated at 36 inches square for one light. This is actually a tricky question. One regular hydra would be cheaper and could easily light your tank as well as fry sps on the sand bed because your tank is so shallow. That being said the 52 would look better, have a more even blend of color, and more colors to play with. Either light would have no trouble with high light corals and both are comparable. After the learning curve dealing with the power of the 5w leds on my vega then going to a comparibly powered reefbreeder with 3w chips and more bulbs I think it's more even. But the blend on my hydra with same 5w bulbs is much more even with the use of two different optics that ai added. Now it seems ai shares my opinion because the hydra 52s are 3w leds. Not sure if I'm leading to a conclusion here. At this point only you can decide. If both lights will cover 36 inches (check on ai's website) get the 52 if you want the latest and greatest or the regular hydra if you want to save a few bucks. They also have great customer service so give them a call if you have more questions. I have the wireless controller and got the director with my new hydras. Initial set up was a bit tricky with the director but really cool once you get it going. Now I can control them from anywhere in the world and the director also controls the vega on my 30g. But if you want to save some money I bet a lot of people are selling the controller cheap after upgrading to the director. The really difficult part is getting everything dialed in once you get it. I did it with trial and error the first time with my vega and had mixed results but no major catastrophes. This time I went on the hydra settings thread and used the set up that sonic posted. Even the weather... he suggested 20% chance of clouds at 10% reduction in light. Specially during acclimation I like the idea of the clouds giving the corals a little break once in a while. That way if I'm ramping up too fast they get a little reprieve once in a while to help them cope. Of course coral acclimation will do the work for me. Think I set it at a 58% reduction until December 21st. So it is slowly getting brighter and I'll finally get to see how it looks at full power right before christmas.
 
Forgot to mention I don't get on rc much these days but feel free to shoot me a pm if you have anymore questions. Also you may find people on the hydra owner's thread that have owned the hydra and hydra 52 so that you can get a better comparison. Of course ai will just recommend you buy the more expensive light. You might need the 52 to cover a 36 inch length. The vega is 24x24 so the regular hydra is either the same as the vega or will cover 36 inches.
 
I'm in the same boat here. I have a 30" tank and I cannot figure out which light I should use. Are the AI Hydras better than Maxspect Razors?
 
I have not used the AI's so I cannot comment about them. However, I am very happy with the Maxspect. I have been using them for about 8 months now.
 
I'm gonna go ahead and suggest BuildMyLED for your tank. Being that it's only 13" front to back, those block or puck style units will be incredibly inefficient from a coverage standpoint. You're paying a premium to waste more than half your useable light field. BuildMyLED strips are an excellent option because they look fantastic, are competitively priced and have a tremendous amount of power.
 
Really depends on your budget. They can range anywhere from $200 to $600 per fixture. Kessils are nice and I'm running a A360 on my tank, but you'll need two to cover the 36" length. Two A150's might work, but they don't offer any dimming options at the moment.

Actually if you wait till the end of the month...Kessil is bringing out the A160we which is a bit more powerful than the A150, has the color and intensity wheels like the 360 series, and can be used on their spectral controler.

I had called Kessil last week and they said that by the 1st or 2nd week in November, the 160's will be released. If you are looking for a top quality LED without spending the $$$ on the 360we series, 2 of the new 160's would be good. If $$$ is not a concern, then I would spring for the 360 series.
 
Actually if you wait till the end of the month...Kessil is bringing out the A160we which is a bit more powerful than the A150, has the color and intensity wheels like the 360 series, and can be used on their spectral controler.

I had called Kessil last week and they said that by the 1st or 2nd week in November, the 160's will be released. If you are looking for a top quality LED without spending the $$$ on the 360we series, 2 of the new 160's would be good. If $$$ is not a concern, then I would spring for the 360 series.

I tried to send you a pm because I don't want to hijack this thread but I have a question about your post. I'm not sure if you received it though.
 
Apparently kessil is also coming out with a new fixture similar to the radion. Not for sure when it's coming out though.
 
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