New Regal has ICH

[Marcel87]

Put a Regal in my about 5 days ago and my Regal has been developing the small white spots on his body. he doesnt have many and some days its barely noticable. i have been dosing garlic and feeding regularly , the regal eats and has finally began to start coming out from hiding after about 3 days.
I also noticed my Regal attacked my blemmy and tore his tail fin, i guess my Regal is getting territorial . My soft brown tang also has developed ich and was added with the Regal on the same day . He has been siwmming around and looks like hes doing well though. Now the Regal and the Soft brown are acting healthy but they just have some spots.... I hope i dont HAVE to treat the tank.... I am wondering if it is possible to not treat the tank with KICK iCH or what not and just let them naturally beat the ich? is that possible?

 

[RBU1]

It is possible that the fish if kept healthy along with excellent water quality can live with ich. Now keep in mind that everytime you add another fish that could be enough to mess up the entire system and wipe out all your fish. If it was my tank....I would not add any other fish for at least a year and make sure you do large weekly water changes in the 20% range. This is a great reason why all fish should be put in a quarentine tank. I would not waste your money on the reef safe treatments, they don't work and your just causing more stress adding those chemicals to the tank. Good Luck.

 

[skibum9884]

Yes, I would advise against Kick-Ich. Keep the water quality high, feed well, and hopefully they can beat it on their own.

Also, I hope you mean you're adding garlic to the food, not dosing into your tank. It needs to be absorbed by the food in order to have any effect and not pollute the water.

 

[miguelp19]

I had the same exact problem, my tank had been running great along with my fish, and as soon as i got my regal tang he got ich and got my other two tangs sick (sailfin and yellow), being a newbie i freaked out and pulled them out and treated them and everything but as i read and asked a few people, the best thing is just to leave them alone and feed well. I dont have anything against quarantine but ive found that whether you do it or not, ich will pretty much ALWAYS be in your tank, it is the fishs' immune system and health which will determine if they get infected or not. i know this goes against alot of beliefs, but IMO it is what has resulted for me.

So as advice, i would just leave the tangs alone, feed them, and make sure there isnt anything else stressing them out. when they finish acclimating, they should start to build their immune system. Good luck. Be patient.

 

[gruenburger]

I am his roommate. We added the Kick-Ick and the ick decreased considerably within 24 hours so I would say it worked. Also, I bought garlic extreme and it says to add directly to the tank if trying to fight disease so I have been adding to the food AND the water.

 

[micrors4racer]

Kick-ich does not work ive tried it before. It only seems to decrease because the cysts have popped off the fish and turned into free swimming parasites. In a couple of days youll see them again once the cycle continues. I am not sure about dosing the garlic into the water column because its not medication, its a supplement. And if you have a skimmer it will just get skimmed out anyway.

 

[gruenburger]

Kick-ich does not work ive tried it before. It only seems to decrease because the cysts have popped off the fish and turned into free swimming parasites. In a couple of days youll see them again once the cycle continues. I am not sure about dosing the garlic into the water column because its not medication, its a supplement. And if you have a skimmer it will just get skimmed out anyway.

Youre, right. I just read how Kick-Ich works. Well, maybe ill get as UV sterilizer or somethng.

 

[Marcel87]

So i had these 2 coral banded shrimps in my tank and im pretty sure they tried to kill my Yasha Goby again , i witnessed them attack my Yasha once during the feeding and i had to stick my hand in the tank and poke the Coral Banded to free the Yasha, the Yasha i thought ws dead but once he was released from the claws of the Coral Banded it was completely fine.... earlier today i finally went to the store to swap the coral bandeds for much smaller ones that seem harmless...the others were way too big for my other fish.... constantly hunting..... now my Yasha doesnt have a rear fin and seems to be a bit misformed towards the middle, hes not even trying to hide really.... he just sits in the corner by my closed brain .... what should i do about this?

PS regarding the ICH and the Regal ...found the soft brown dead today..... very unfortunate ...i purchased a quarantine tank today and now i have my regal in there on medication . I hope he does better and survives .

i am wondering if my Yasha will be okay...now there is nothing that can hurt him in the tank althought he is the smaller, all the shrimps are smaller than he is and dont seem to bother him at all..... what do you think?


Thanks again for all the help.

 

[rayn]

Newer tank? Powder brown tangs are known ich magnets and should always be QT 'd. I had one die from ich in QT being treated with copper. My guess is that is how it came in.

 

[Jdbrine]

Hyposalinity imo is by far the most effective and safest way of treating Ich when done properly....... and I personally would never recommend using copper on any fish....... copper has to many adverse effects on fish, especially tangs..... ofcourse you cannot use hyposalinity in a reef tank..... I recommend setting up QT using water frome your main tank.....

 

[nuccadoc]

Hyposalinity imo is by far the most effective and safest way of treating Ich when done properly....... and I personally would never recommend using copper on any fish....... copper has to many adverse effects on fish, especially tangs..... ofcourse you cannot use hyposalinity in a reef tank..... I recommend setting up QT using water frome your main tank.....

Where did you find the data to support this statement. I only ask because I am treating my 400 right now with Seachem's Cupramine.


Scott

 

[rayn]

Treating your 400 what? Tank? CRAP! What do you have in there? Live rock, corals, fish, filters? All that is now covered (lack of better term) in copper. You should have pulled and QT'd them or left alone. Inverts will die in a copper tank, and it can leach out for a long time if it ever stops.

You could use cuprisorb and carbon, they are both supposed to suck up the copper, but then you have to trust it too.

 

[gruenburger]

lost the regal to whatever parasite it had. were treating the tank for flukes.