new to seahorses

Justin1386

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Hey guys I've been into reefs for some years now and I've decided to do a seahorse pipefish goby tank.

Tank dims36x24x16tall

My vision for the tank is to have a 6" sandbed
Lots of mangroves
Maidens hair sea grass
Xenia
Gorgonia sea fans

I'm curious to know what all your guys tanks look like. If you guys could please post some pics of your tanks here on the thread and whatever helpful tips you guys can give to success

Thanks! I look forward to seeing how it's done.
 
If I'm reading you right, you are planning a 16 inch tall tank, with 6 inches of sand, leaving less than 10 inches of water? That's much to shallow for anything but dwarf seahorses (and much too big for them).
 
You won't find a high percentage of successful tanks with both seahorses and pipe fish in them.
Most often, the seahorses are lost due to pathogen exposure from the pipe fish, and sometimes all are lost.
While the water volume is sufficient for one pair of standard sized seahorses like erectus, reidi, or kuda, once they reach their full height in the 6" range, they don't have much head room.
 
Ok so less sand for now, this is a temporary tank once I move I will be getting a bigger tank. And rayjay your saying that pipes and horses won't survive together? I'm miss understanding how the pipe releases pathogens alive.
 
All fish have pathogens in/on their bodies.
When you put fish in a tank the pathogens are now present in that tank. If you put fish from different sources in the same tank, you may introduce pathogens that one or both haven't been exposed to before.
Most reef fish, if healthy, can handle the pathogens not previously present in their history.
Experience has shown the seahorses however, don't do well with exposure to pathogens that they haven't grown up with.
When you put other fish from different breeding sources in with the seahorses, even other seahorses, you run a risk of seahorse losses due to any new pathogen exposure. This occurs more often than not.
Add to the fact that now you have higher quality seahorses available from breeders using commercial salt water or properly filtered and treated ocean water, so that pathogens they carry are fewer than the wild caught and tank raised we used to buy.
Given that almost all pipe fish are wild caught, the chances of introducing pathogens the seahorses you have haven't been exposed to previously are much greater now.
Adding any fish lessens the chances of success in seahorse keeping, but for some reason, and I don't have an answer as to why, pipe fish additions seem to be more problematic than other reef fish.
When I first started into seahorse keeping about 12 yrs ago, I had already been a reefer in a big way for 8 yrs, and figured I'd be able to handle it even when it wasn't recommended. I've never succeeded, although some others have managed it on the first attempt, or after a few attempts.
Most successful seahorse keepers keep their tanks on the cooler side, (recommended 68° to 74°F) have much oversized skimmers, and with filtration systems that would normally handle much larger and more populated tanks, because seahorses cause the water to become very dirty very fast.
They are selective eaters only snicking up the "choice" pieces, in their eyes at least, leaving the rest to often get trapped in unseen spots where they produce bacteria beds.
Also, when they snick their food, they masticate it, passing particulate matter out through the gills. Sometimes you can see this as a cloud emanating from the gills upon snicking a piece of food. This further degrades the water and fuels nasty bacteria growth.
I'd suggest reading the links at the bottom of My Thoughts on Seahorse Keeping, written by experience keepers and by the most respected breeder in the US.
 
Justin, here is a pic of my seahorse tank. I set it up in April. It will be a dedicated 30g XH seahorse tank for a pair of H erectus. It has its own skimmer, Whisper filter with rubble rock and seeded with pods, a covered koralia power head and 2 rio pumps near the bottom for flow to prevent dead areas. The tank will be at 72-74 degrees maintained with a chiller. I like the looks of macro algae plus it helps with nutrient export and sturdy soft corals. I wont get my seahorses for another month as I will be out of the country the beginning of September and will order them when I return.
 

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Rayjay, thank you so much that helpped a lot I truly appreciate the help. I guess I'll be skipping out on pipes. :( that's ok I'll have gobies and others to entertain me

Vlangel thanks for the post that's a nice lookin tank. How tall is that 24"
 
Rayjay, thank you so much that helpped a lot I truly appreciate the help. I guess I'll be skipping out on pipes. :( that's ok I'll have gobies and others to entertain me

Vlangel thanks for the post that's a nice lookin tank. How tall is that 24"
Yes, its 24". The H erectus are one of the bigger of the common seahorses so I intensionally chose this tank for its dimensions and price. Thanks for the kind comment.
 
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