New WaveBox installation Help

[Rouselb]

Okay, just got this bad boy, im trying to hook it up and need some assistance. My tank is 72 long, 24 wide, and 26 tall. I have 2 over flow boxes, one in each back corner of the tank. The return is centered in the tank, and pointing down. I have 2 streams 6100 almost at the front of the tank on each side pointing to the back center (45 deg). I have a vortech on the right side almost against the rear glass pointing along the full length of the tank. I have the new wavebox on the right side almost against the front glass pointing along the full length of the tank. I have the multicontroller set on interval 2. The two streams on channel 1 (one knob at 40 the other at 80). I have the wavebox on channel 2 both knobs set at 100. I set the jumper in the single controller that came with the wavebox to external, i have the wavebox plugged into the master, and the slave running to the multicontroller (channel 2). Okay, thats all the hook ups, now i have the single controller knob set at 1/8 turn, and the white knob on the power supply set to 100%. The wave is not very tall, i dont think i have the right frequency. Does the setup sound right?? Please advise.

 

[Jar*Head]

Hello Rouselb, You can run your wavebox without the multicontroller and it will make life soooooo much easier.

 

[Jar*Head]

Or you can change the setting on your 6091 back to original, dial in the wavebox to get the right frequency then change it back to external then connect it to your multi controller. IMO, that is too complicated. I would run the wavebox with it own controller and the two stream will be on channel 1 and channel 2 on interval II. Do you notice your wavebox run a little louder compare to normal?

 

[Rouselb]

i just dont understand all these options. Right now, i turned my vortech off, and the controller is running channel 2 and i have a nice sway, it looks really good, like i actually knew what i was doing when i turned this on.
But my first question is how do i place my vortech so it will not cancel the wavebox out?
Second, how do you set the controller so you know when each cycle is happening?? I mean if you have it set on interval 2 and the interval defined as 6hrs, how do you know when the start of that is??
I will admit, i never really understood this multicontroller that well. Anyhow, any advise is great, thanks.

 

[Jar*Head]

You can place your Vortech anywhere you like. I don't see it interfere with the wavebox unless your have it flow direct into the wavebox pump.

Second, only ROGER himself can answer this question. Honestly in the 5yrs of using tunze product i have never notice the change between cycle .

Let try this, turn off all your tunze for 10sec, turn it back on, set your alarm for 5hrs 50mins later and observe to see if you notice any high or low tide. If you do notice the different, please share with us. Because i know every tunze user would love to know what you experience after 6hrs . That is going to a very valuable information to pass on to us tunze users. I don't have my tank up and running now but i would like to try myself with my 4 tunze on interval II

 

[Rouselb]

Okay, no such luck, i changed it to pulse then back to interval 2 at 10pm, this morning at 8am should have been low tide, but nope, still working on high tide. I must be missing something here. Anyhow, heres another question, how far below the water level should the box be?? The top of my box is roughly 1.5 inches below the water level. Is this to much??

 

[Jar*Head]

The top of the box need to be out of water. There is a water line approx 3/4" below the top. The wavebox will not work if it fully submerse. It need some type of air and water mixture.....

 

[Rouselb]

okay, its above the water line, and seems to be functioning correctly. Now i just have to figure out this controller and dial the frequency in.

 

[Rouselb]

Alright, I have a massive wave kicking. This rocks (literally)! I got the photo cell connected and it works. I just cant figure out the controller??!! I set the controller on Pulse, and its really rocking around, i would like to run low/high tide if i can figure that out.

 

[Rouselb]

Heres some video!!!
http://larryrouseii.com/lb-tunze6212-compressed.mov

 

[Rouselb]

Roger, can you tell me if i can connect the safety connector to the wavebox??

 

[rvitko]

Yes, you can use the safety connector but you would need two 12V batteries run in series or a 24V battery for it to work.

 

[Rouselb]

Roger, the icecap battery is rated at 18AH, what will the draw be for the wavebox? Also, can you explain the multicontroller to me. I want to run high/low tide, but how do you know when the start of each is ??

 

[rvitko]

The wavebox averages 35VA at 24V between its off and on cycles. That is a 1.5 AH draw roughly. The key is that the wavebox needs 24V and not 12 to run at full power. You would take two 12V batteries connected in series to achieve this. If you went with the 18AH batteries the wavebox should run for 12H

 

[rvitko]

As for the multicontroller, tide simulation is best done using Interval 2 mode and using a 6hr interval. It is not exact but the premise is that the tides change in 6 hr intervals. Every 6hrs the flow direction shifts so the flow comes from the right and then 6hrs later the left. This mimics the inrush and outrush of the tide.

 

[Rouselb]

I dont need the wavebox to run at full power, i have it in a 180 gal tank. 72.24.26 inches. I just need something to keep the coral alive till i get home from work and hook up the generator. No more then 9 hrs of run time is needed. Do you think it will have enough water movement to keep things alive for 9 hrs if i use the 12VDC Icecap Battery? As for the multicontroller, I have 2 stream 6100 on channel 1 and the wavebox on channel 2. If i set it to interval 2, then the wavebox will be at 30% for 6 hrs while the streams are cycling, and vice versa. Is this correct?? Does the power cycle really apply to the wavebox, I mean, the two knobs that set your limits, say 30% to 100%. It does not seem to affect the wave if i change the multicontroller, just the single controller that came with the wavebox.

 

[rvitko]

All that you accomplish by connecting the wavebox to the multicontroller is the ability to turn it off in Interval 1 mode, the power settings do nothing for the wavebox. Basically if you want to run just a Stream and then just the wavebox you would connect it to the multicontroller but otherwise it serves no purpose.

This will probably work, but the flow will be much less and the amp draw will likely be higher so I would only expect 9hrs battery life max.

 

[Rouselb]

Thanks for you help Roger. I think im going to run the wavebox 24/7 on the single controller, and purchase an additional 6101 stream run that on the multicontroller with the safety connector by means of the 12VDC 18AH battery (IceCap Battery).

 

[rvitko]

Just out of curiosity why would you buy an IceCap battery? I thought that was a full back up system with an inverter? You can use any 12V DC battery.

 

[Rouselb]

I have a Ecotech Marine Vortech PH, one of the early models with the IceCap Battery. I bought it because it made sense to have a 3000gph PH that would run for a minimum of 24 hrs during a power outage.