Newbie seeking help with 50 gal. reeftank move

kallan

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:bounce3:I am the new owner of Bill Dooley's 50 gallon reeftank!

Reality has set in now and I am worried about getting the corals and fish safely into their new home. I have no experience in saltwater, much less taking on a move like this.

I live in Hardy, VA, about an hour and a few minutes from Bill in Blacksburg. Bill was thinking Memorial Day weekend would work for him, but he and I would be open to other times as well. I need at least two people in Blacksburg to help me pack everything up and two people in the Roanoke/Vinton/SML area to help me set it back up.

If you can help with the move or offer suggestions to make the transition go smoothly, I'd love to hear from you.

Ruby
 
Suggestions, Ade, Landon and Jorge chip in too

Suggestions, Ade, Landon and Jorge chip in too

Hey Ruby,

I wish i hadn't graduated because there are a few people needing help. I will be headed home to NJ but i can offer advice reguarding moving animals. I have to move all my tanks every 6 months between school and home so im relatively well schooled in the process.

First, and bill probably knows it, you need to fast the livstock (I think he has a big maroon pair and a tang as well as some smaller stuff). Without food there will be less ammonia they can expel and their gills wont be nearly as damaged. You can either bag the livestock and corals or have hard containers. When you bag, i try to have 1/3 water and 2/3 air. This is a good mix and gallon size ziplocks are probably the best. If you go hard container, tupperware or 5 gallon buckets work well. The biggest challenge you will have is temperature control. Coolers work really well and are more efficient when fully packed. If you have room and are using a truck, try to keep all fish and corals in the cab.

For the corals, they may slime a bit when disturbed. It may be best to take tank water and have a dip bucket to remove slime when you first stress the coral colonies. after they release a majority of their slime, move them to a new container with clean tank water. Tupperware or a bucket are almost a must for the SPS unless you want to double or triple bag the colonies. Again, temperature is critical so keep them insulated.

As far as preparation, make sure to take baseline tank measurements before you move it. This will give you parameters to aim for once the tank gets settled, and bill has super growth so im sure what he has is ideal. Have a cheap backup heater ready in case something goes wrong during the move and the primary heater breaks. It will also help get the water back up to temp. Have extra seawater made at your home to finish topping off the tank because you are sure to lose some water along the way. Again, mimic what bill has for salinity and temp.

For acclimation always make sure everything is gradual. Everything should be moved in the dark to reduce stress. When you reintroduce them to the tank, keep the lights off to maintain that calm. I would put the clowns in last so they havent already claimed the territory. Temperature changes must also be gradual. Agin if possible, try not to add the tranpost water from the fish or corals. It will have some toxins the stressed animals released and is better thrown away if you are able to. If not have some carbon ready in the sump to absorb some of the toxins.

For the sand and the liverock, its safest to remove the sand from the tank for the tank to avoid breaking. However, moving that sand bed may release a lot of nasty stuff from the sandbed. If you have extra saltwater, rinse the bed once before putting it in. Also, dont totally dry the san to keep the livesand cultures alive. For the liveock, a rubbermaind from walmart has been most successfull for me, although 5 gallon buckets work for smaller pieces. Again, try to have the rock mostly submerged to keep bacterial colonies alive. If these can be moved inside the car as opposed to a bed, good, otherwise try to move them when teperatures are near 80 degrees outside (Memorial day should be this high). When refilling th tank, use a clean soapless dish to pour the water onto, this will disturb far less sand.

Im sure there are plenty more tips out there, but these have been the best ive found. Hopefully Ade, landon(Cayenne) or Jorge(DadyOJ) will chip in because they moved jorge's monster last year. Im sure they'll have more to contribute.

Good luck and im definitely jealous of those clowns, theyre beautiful.

-Tom

PS Welcome, its an awesome hobby
 
It appears that we will not have a meet that weekend as we just do not have numbers anymore. So if you get things rolling let me know I could most likely help out at your place setting it back up.

I have moved several complete systems over the last couple of years and had no loss of corals or fish (90gal, 65gal, and 210). Tom had a lot of good advice, but your move should be fairly simple as you are only transporting the stuff an hour away.

Like he said do as much prep as you can premixed and heated water at your place and area ready for setup, I would plan about a 50% water change so have 20-25 gallons of water ready. My choice would be to replace most of the sand bed with new and have that ready as well. Also be prepared to give the tank a good cleaning to remove all the coraline and encrusted stuff that is going to die during the move. Garden hose and scraper ready for that.

When I moved the 65 the smallest of my tank moves, from start to finish was only 7 hours transporting a half hour away with wall to wall livestock, just myself and the new owner.

18 gal rubbermaid totes about $5 a piece at walmart help along with 5 gal buckets. I bagged smaller corals and fish, this makes it easy to temp acclimate by floating once the tank is full again. All rock, and larger corals in totes or buckets with water.

It is ok if the temps drift as long as it is not sudden.

hopefully a few more will be able to help, offering up a pizza or two and a few beers may help.
 
Tom,

I'm sorry I won't be able to meet and learn from you. Wow, you have a lot of experience moving reeftanks! I'll definitely print this guide off along with some other info. I've found out there. I didn't know Bill had a pair of clowns. I only saw one when I looked at the tank. :(

Ruby
 
Jorge,

Thanks for your offer to help! I will definitely have food and drink and whatever else you'd like. How does Saturday the 28th work for you?

If I am to replace the sandbed, what should I get? I guess I would use some of Bill's sandbed to top off my new sand. I was looking online at marcorocks.com and they have aragonite sand...160 lbs. for @$109 and 40 lbs. for $29.95 shipping included. They have the coarse and fine. I love their Key Largo rock. I just ordered 40 lbs. from Bulk Reef Supply before I found their website. What do you think? What do you use for sand?

I have a 60 gallon I recently broke down...was using as a planted community tank and have ordered an overflow box for it and am going to try and make a sump with an old 20 gallon I have. I could put the extra sand in this tank. When this tank is cycled, I thought I'd thin Bill's tank a bit so the fish had more swimming room.

You really know what you are doing....no losses....I'm impressed.

Talk to you soon,
Ruby
 
George,

I would love to have your help! In fact, I NEED your help. I am so nervous just thinking about disrupting this beautiful tank. Would Saturday work for you?

Thanks.

Ruby
 
Thank you...I'd love to have your help! :D At this time, I'm shooting for Saturday, the 28th. You'd probably just like to help out on the Roanoke end, right?

I'm planning to start packing things up early in Blacksburg and then have help on this end setting everything back up. Hopefully, it will go smoothly and everyone will be in their new home fairly quickly.

Ruby
 
could be available the 28th afternoon or evening, and this is really not that difficult just takes some time and manpower and enough vehicle space to move the stuff. I had two vehicles for each move and a trailer as well for the 210.

you do not have to change the substrate, you could rinse it well and re-use but an established tank has a lot of nasty stuff in the substrate and could cause problems so if funds are available it could save you trouble down the road.

substrate is personal preference I like
http://www.fosterandsmithaquatics.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=3578+9805+7326&pcatid=7326

a little more coarse than the fine sand but prevents sand storms, also one bag of this plus some of the old stuff rinsed should be enough unless you are doing a deep sand bed

the other finer stuff that I like is, probably like the stuff on marcorocks but this can make the water a little cloudy if you have high flow

http://www.fosterandsmithaquatics.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=3578+9805+7321&pcatid=7321
 
Thank you...I'd love to have your help! :D At this time, I'm shooting for Saturday, the 28th. You'd probably just like to help out on the Roanoke end, right?

I'm planning to start packing things up early in Blacksburg and then have help on this end setting everything back up. Hopefully, it will go smoothly and everyone will be in their new home fairly quickly.

Ruby

Roanoke end would be great. Please be sure and send me a PM Thursday or so to remind me :)
 
Super! I look forward to meeting you.

Send me a pm and let me know what you like to drink and eat...

Ruby
 
For those that will be helping out on the Blacksburg end please show up at my house @ 8am this Saturday (May 28). I expect the break down will take approx. 2 hours. The folks that are helping on the Roanoke end should plan to be at Ruby's place at 11 - 11:30 a.m.. If anyone needs directions, PM Ruby or me.

Thanks in advance for volunteering your help.

-Bill
 
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