Newbies story and looking for constructive criticism

fuzzyone

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So ill get right to it, a few months ago i found a great deal on a 72 bow front with stand, light, and hob filter on Craig's list. Originally it was going to be a planted fresh water tank. On a routine trip to my lfs i say a porcupine puffer and that was all she wrote, i had to have one. After a little research i was disappointed that the puffer was not going to happen but i had the salt water bug non the less. Thanks in big part to the information on this forum i think I'm pretty well on my way to having a decent aquarium. I guess the point of this thread is for me to lay out what i have done and for any willing to give constructive criticism and any advice you may think i need. I'll start with what I've done and try to justify of defend my self, here goes.....

Its going to be a fowlr so the lights shouldn't matter that much but it is a Chinese dual t5 ho/dual 150 w mh fixture with moon light led's..no real concerns here other then i know the bulbs need to be replaced and i was just wondering if you neglect to do that will it shorten the life of the ballast? As it doesn't really matter id rather not spend the 100$ on all new bulbs unless it will shorten the life of the fixture, or if its even worth it.

The most torn decision i made was in regards to substrate. I decided to save the money and just use silica pool filter sand. There are loads of arguments either way on this one, i know but, in the research i did there was science that says it will remain inert, as in not releasing silicates into the water. And as for the aragonite being a ph buffer, the main argument for its use (seems to me anyways) it wouldn't start doing any buffering until ph dips to mid 7's which would only happen if there was a serious problem of some sort, any way. That being said i really just wanted to save the money and put it toward something else.....So yeah 100 lbs of sand later and step one complete, after a thorough rinsing of coarse.

I decided to go the route of all base rock for the tank main reason being i have a lot more time then money. An estimated 70 lbs of dry rock so i would guess 80-85 when wet. First go around at lfs they only had real heavy dense stuff so i got some bigger pieces for my "foundation". A few weeks later they got in some really nice looking very porous stuff so i loaded up for $2 a lb. The first few rows i used jb water weld to hold together, as i was using them to make my little caves with. I got a koralia 750 and a 1050 for water movement and with my skimmer and hob i figure i got more then enough flow(i think)....

Decided on the reef octopus bh 1000 for my skimmer...even in my fresh water aquariums i tend to stock very lightly so i figured id save the 50 bucks and go with 1000 instead of 2000. I found very few people displeased with theirs so i went with what i determined to be the consensus favorite when it comes to budget hob skimmers.

The tank came with an ac 110 which has a good reputation so i will be using it to run purigen and phosgaurd in the seachem "The bag". That leads me to a question...Do i need to run a sponge under the media bags to keep them clean? if i dont and the bags get nasty will it affect there capacity to clean the water? or will it just look bad?

As of now im on day 2 of my cycle lol...i only have one real concern and that is the clarity of my water. I used instant ocean because it has a decent rep and is a good price on amazon. I mixed it in a (of coarse brand new, and well cleaned) 35 gallon dumpster using a little giant pond pump i had laying around and let it circulate for a few hours. Since the aquarium was empty i put it in the tank after only a few hours, warmed up the water for my next batch mixed it and put it in too....its been a few days now and the initial cloudiness has gotten better but it still very noticeable. I'm guessing that its not due to anything in the tank because the water never cleared up in the garbage can. I've read that a lot of people have clear water after only a few hours usually not more then 24 hours...its got me a little concerned. i read about precipitation so i checked my ph and it was 8.2 so i know thats not a problem. Any ideas?

I'm only on day 2 of cycle so i haven't stared checking lvls yet figured i would start after first week. If your curious I'm using the raw shrimp method....cant get pure ammonia around here any where.

One last question is about power head placement. i have the 1050 on the upper left corner facing center of pile and the 750 upper right blowing pretty level with surface of water....any input on the flow would be appreciated...

I was planing on doing some pics but im now clue less guess ill go hit up the faq section lol.....thanks and ill be back soon with pics
 
Its going to be a fowlr so the lights shouldn't matter that much but it is a Chinese dual t5 ho/dual 150 w mh fixture with moon light led's..no real concerns here other then i know the bulbs need to be replaced and i was just wondering if you neglect to do that will it shorten the life of the ballast? As it doesn't really matter id rather not spend the 100$ on all new bulbs unless it will shorten the life of the fixture, or if its even worth it.

Won't shorten the ballast life, but you might see weird/nuisance algae with older bulbs.

The tank came with an ac 110 which has a good reputation so i will be using it to run purigen and phosgaurd in the seachem "The bag". That leads me to a question...Do i need to run a sponge under the media bags to keep them clean? if i dont and the bags get nasty will it affect there capacity to clean the water? or will it just look bad?

It's a good idea to leave the sponge in to collect any crap before it hits the media bag(s). Just rinse it out once a week and you'll be fine.

As of now im on day 2 of my cycle lol...i only have one real concern and that is the clarity of my water. I used instant ocean because it has a decent rep and is a good price on amazon. I mixed it in a (of coarse brand new, and well cleaned) 35 gallon dumpster using a little giant pond pump i had laying around and let it circulate for a few hours. Since the aquarium was empty i put it in the tank after only a few hours, warmed up the water for my next batch mixed it and put it in too....its been a few days now and the initial cloudiness has gotten better but it still very noticeable. I'm guessing that its not due to anything in the tank because the water never cleared up in the garbage can. I've read that a lot of people have clear water after only a few hours usually not more then 24 hours...its got me a little concerned. i read about precipitation so i checked my ph and it was 8.2 so i know thats not a problem. Any ideas?

If it's still cloudy in a week, maybe be concerned. Maybe run some carbon in your Aquaclear powerfilter to clear it up.

I'm only on day 2 of cycle so i haven't stared checking lvls yet figured i would start after first week. If your curious I'm using the raw shrimp method....cant get pure ammonia around here any where.

I've used the raw shrimp method before. Just drop one in a media bag, so you can take it out later without it falling all apart. As soon as you detect ammonia, get it out. Ghost feed a pinch of flake food every other day to continue the cycle. It usually takes around 6 weeks to fully cycle this way.

One last question is about power head placement. i have the 1050 on the upper left corner facing center of pile and the 750 upper right blowing pretty level with surface of water....any input on the flow would be appreciated...

I personally like having the whirlpool effect. Place one powerhead in the front top on one side of the tank; the other one in the back middle on the other side of the tank.
 
I have also been working On live stock. What I have so far is, a pair of ocellerious clowns, 3-4 blue green chromis, a royal gramma, a coral beauty, and a watchmen goby. I I would like to have a standard cuc as well with snails and hermits and a few varietys of shrimp. I really wanted some sort of tang but don't think they would be to happy in a 4' tank, so maybe a foxface instead. That sound about right?
 
I agree with what HumbleFish wrote. When I used to have T-5 bulbs, a sure way to know when they needed replacing was when the algae growth started to increase. As the bulbs age they shift color towards yellow which is the sweet spot for algae growth. I've never used silica sand myself but I have read horror stories, again keep an eye on the algae, you can always siphon it out later if it presents a problem. Your fish selection looks good other than some concern that the chromis will fight amongst themselves until only one is left alive (some aquarists get lucky in larger tanks and can keep a small shoal, but I have never been able to keep more than one long term). I think you could keep a Kole Tang in your tank, but other than that it would be best to pass on the Tangs.
 
I wasn't expecting to hear that about the chromis.... I thought they had a reputation as a peaceful fish. Any other sugestions on a smaller schooling type fish that won't hurt the wallet to much? My wife is already about to kill me over the blown budget anyways so I'm trying to keep the lie stock pretty resinable lol...
And on the upgrade see the above statement about the wife! I've been getting slot of my livestock ideas from live aqueria is there info pretty sound? And on the t5's in that fixture they are both actinic would they still cause an alge problem with age?
 
Chromis are peaceful towards any other fish except another Chromis. Perhaps Anthias but they have strict feeding requirements and are not usually long lived. The two actinic T-5s should not be an issue as far as algae goes but the tank will be extremely blue in coloration.
 
Plus the 2 150w mh's in the fixture I kinda like the color. Any suggestions on. Smaller budget fish I could have a few of as "filler" that are pretty to look at? Pajama cardnals maybe?
 
Pajama cardinals are good. They aren't super active since they're more nocturnal, but they're still interesting.
 
The trouble with Chromis is you will end up with one single dominant Chromis. The dominant one will kill off the others of his species. Great fish but they're not coming in healthy as of late.

Another cool addition would be a Yasha White Ray Shrimp Goby paired with a Pistol Shrimp. They will co-exist with each other since they form a symbiotic relationship to each other. Very interesting to watch.
 
I have a school of 6 chromis for past 10 months. Only lost one when it was in QT and got very weak. No aggression at all and I have a 75. I believe they're hit and miss.
 
Good luck with the budget and welcome to reef central.

This hobby and Reef Central outlasted my marriage and now I buy whatever I want (after I pay the alimony of course)
 
A symbiotic thing would be cool! Do you have to buy a pair already together or can you throw one of each in the tank and wait?
 
I must agree on the Chromis there, I have four but you only see one because the larger one refuses to let them come out of hiding. That large one even fights with the Coral beauty I have, It's a dwarf CB, so they are in close size of each other. Plus "GOOG LUCK" on the Coral Beauty. I sure wish I never bought that thing. It is a coral terrorizer. If you are wanting to do corals anytime soon, I would be very cautious of it, it has never left anything alone in my tank. I am going to pay someone to catch it and pull it out. Haha, I even wrote a post asking some help just on the subject of my Coral beauty.
 
I don't plan on keeping it a fowlr but I know how that goes..... Have you ever had a problem with aggression towards other fish? And I guess I got the message on the chromis loud and clear. If I where to get one blue green and a black and white or some other chromis with a different appearance would they get along ok?
 
A symbiotic thing would be cool! Do you have to buy a pair already together or can you throw one of each in the tank and wait?

No, you don't have to find a pair. You can get one of each and put it in the tank. They'll find each other.
 
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