Nano_reeflover
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Ok, but even then a heap sounds like too much. I've started dosing (about a week and a half) my 55 gallon with only 1/4 tsp. Its no secret that things would die in a cup with a heap of sugar added to it.
Nitrate Reduction 101 with sugar!!!
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Reef_bones
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look, why are some people trying so hard to disprove this. NOONE said you have to do it. It was stated in the original post 1/8th a tsp per 25g, not a heap. I don't understand all the negative outlook tword it. Like has been stated several times it is not a new tactic. It has been done successfully to lower nitrates. Just like Kalkwasser and evertyhing else you can dose in your tank if you over do it then you will have issues.
Reef_bones
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Thats what happens in this hobby when you can't follow directions... THINGS DIE
Dave,
If you don't mind my asking, what kinds of tests do you run on your tank? Do you have a prefered brand of test kits? I'm looking to expand the tests that I do on my tank but worry about reliability of tests (as you mentioned in your nitrate example.)
Btw, we did the vodka thing for a few weeks and the result was that my favorite coral (a beautiful brain) had some die off. Not sure what the real problem was as we weren't dosing heavily and we never had a big cloudy bloom as others have, but it certainly made us stop dosing. I guess I'd really like to see the content of the tanks that are being dosed. Are they SPS, LPS, Softies, Fish only.....? It would make me feel safer if I knew someone with the same inhabitants had luck with the system of adding sugar. As for the vodka, the only place I'm going to add that now is to my OJ.
If you don't mind my asking, what kinds of tests do you run on your tank? Do you have a prefered brand of test kits? I'm looking to expand the tests that I do on my tank but worry about reliability of tests (as you mentioned in your nitrate example.)
Btw, we did the vodka thing for a few weeks and the result was that my favorite coral (a beautiful brain) had some die off. Not sure what the real problem was as we weren't dosing heavily and we never had a big cloudy bloom as others have, but it certainly made us stop dosing. I guess I'd really like to see the content of the tanks that are being dosed. Are they SPS, LPS, Softies, Fish only.....? It would make me feel safer if I knew someone with the same inhabitants had luck with the system of adding sugar. As for the vodka, the only place I'm going to add that now is to my OJ.
fishykid9212
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Thankyou for the fine comments
It's my parents vodka that has been in the closet for years, they aren't drinkers, and I am not a drinker nor am I going to start they know I used it and I asked them first .fishykid9212
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Great Idea, I will post mine tomorrow, I just cam home from vacation and my glass needs a little cleaning. After I clean it I will post 
But other sugar tanks please post. I also have artificial corals becasue I don't have time to keep real ones so some may not like it because of that. But yes I did experiment sugar with corals and they all lived.
But other sugar tanks please post. I also have artificial corals becasue I don't have time to keep real ones so some may not like it because of that. But yes I did experiment sugar with corals and they all lived.Reef_bones
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LOL..typical.
NOONE HAS CLAIMED IT IS A WAY BETTER WAY TO DO ANYTHING...
It is an option to use if you need to lower nitrates. Why do so many people get there britches bunched up when someone tries to be helpful with a NOT SO NEW idea...
fishykid9212
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What I was doing by posting this, was trying to help. I didn't mean to start an argument. I will post a picture of my tank though once I clean it.
Reef_bones
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I thought it was cool, fishykid. Some people are just closed minded about things. Like I said before , I have had times in the past when snails croaked after being in the tank a couple of years and I couldn't find them without taking the rock out I would use this method.
fishykid9212
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vodka and sugar can both be used for this method, they both do the same thing. I have tested and experimented both, I only prefer sugar over vodka for one I am under age 
and most of all sugar is a lot easier, just a few pinches a day and done.
and most of all sugar is a lot easier, just a few pinches a day and done.
DaveBrader
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Hi Murph,
First of all, I prefer Salifert test kits. I have tried several over the last three years, and have found Salifert to be the most reliable and accurate. I test for the following
Silicate
Boron
Calcium
Phosphate
PH, although I do have a PH Controller for my Calcium Reactor, and a Monitor for the tank both. But it never hurts to do a chemical test just to make sure the probes are not in great need of Calibration.
Magnesium
Copper
Alkalinity
Iodine
Strontium
Disolved Organics
Disolved Oxygen
Nitrates
Nitrites
I test my RODI with a TDS meter regularly..
I also have an ORP controller for my Ozone Generator.
Of course, I do not test for everything , all the time. I believe I have enough experience now to be able to tell by looking if I am having a problem that needs to be tested for, but I do all of my tests at least once a month.
I did not have a big bacteria bloom when I dosed sugar, of course I only dosed a teaspoon per day in a total water volume of 200 gallons. Not very much, but certainly enough to reduce high nitrates in just a few days after my sons overfed the tank while I was on vacation. The worst thing they did was leave whole silversides in the tank when the Eel did not accept them from the end of the stick I use for feeding her. They said, they though the Eel would find it when it was hungry... LOL
As far as your coral dying, I would not be so quick to blame the Vodka as much as I would blame the conditions which caused you to want to dose the Vodka to begin with.
I did not have any corals or livestock stress due to the addition of sugar. Some of my Montipora Caps were very stressed and developing large white dying spots when I got home. Today, about three weeks since that trouble, you would never even know they had been stressed.. all completely healed My Birdnest bleached during the high nitrates, and is just now starting to color back up. But, the dosing of the sugar did nothing but lower the Nitrates and cause everything to start healing from the stress of the high nitrates. Nothing else was really affected during all of this. The fish were all fine, all the LPS were fine, all the mushrooms were fine... Zenia actually did very well, of course Zenia likes high nutrients. Blastos did well. Zoos all fine.. The worst were the Montipora Caps.
Dave
First of all, I prefer Salifert test kits. I have tried several over the last three years, and have found Salifert to be the most reliable and accurate. I test for the following
Silicate
Boron
Calcium
Phosphate
PH, although I do have a PH Controller for my Calcium Reactor, and a Monitor for the tank both. But it never hurts to do a chemical test just to make sure the probes are not in great need of Calibration.
Magnesium
Copper
Alkalinity
Iodine
Strontium
Disolved Organics
Disolved Oxygen
Nitrates
Nitrites
I test my RODI with a TDS meter regularly..
I also have an ORP controller for my Ozone Generator.
Of course, I do not test for everything , all the time. I believe I have enough experience now to be able to tell by looking if I am having a problem that needs to be tested for, but I do all of my tests at least once a month.
I did not have a big bacteria bloom when I dosed sugar, of course I only dosed a teaspoon per day in a total water volume of 200 gallons. Not very much, but certainly enough to reduce high nitrates in just a few days after my sons overfed the tank while I was on vacation. The worst thing they did was leave whole silversides in the tank when the Eel did not accept them from the end of the stick I use for feeding her. They said, they though the Eel would find it when it was hungry... LOL
As far as your coral dying, I would not be so quick to blame the Vodka as much as I would blame the conditions which caused you to want to dose the Vodka to begin with.
I did not have any corals or livestock stress due to the addition of sugar. Some of my Montipora Caps were very stressed and developing large white dying spots when I got home. Today, about three weeks since that trouble, you would never even know they had been stressed.. all completely healed My Birdnest bleached during the high nitrates, and is just now starting to color back up. But, the dosing of the sugar did nothing but lower the Nitrates and cause everything to start healing from the stress of the high nitrates. Nothing else was really affected during all of this. The fish were all fine, all the LPS were fine, all the mushrooms were fine... Zenia actually did very well, of course Zenia likes high nutrients. Blastos did well. Zoos all fine.. The worst were the Montipora Caps.
Dave
fishykid9212
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OK heres my tank, the glass isn't very clean and the quality isn't that good, and the plastic plants are going to go But here goes
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