NWIMAC first offical meeting Feb 21st

bigevill1

Big and Evil
As per an different post by seaoflife there will be a meeting at the lake county library on thursday feb 21st at 7 pm. This is the library on RT 30 in Merrillville IN. I should be there, and will relay the goings on to anybody who cant make it when I go to Scott's place on the 23rd. Please lets use this thread as a signup sheet so seaoflife knows who will be attending.
 
We are also going to try and put some flyers out to the LFS since it's a not-for-profit organization, we won't be de-tracting from their stores. I'm sure alot of area reefers don't use these forums. Spread the word.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11838022#post11838022 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by patboone7
it's a not-for-profit organization,
does that mean that you already have a 501(c)(3) approval letter from the IRS? wow, you really have planned things out!
 
What a pompus arrogant comment pescadero. Thanks.

Listen, nobody is asking you to join our club, you've made it perfectly clear your content with no structure, dues and all the other things that extremely bother you about our club and ideas. I don't need your sarcasm which was noted through your post. Have a good day.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11838920#post11838920 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by patboone7
What a pompus arrogant comment pescadero. Thanks.

Listen, nobody is asking you to join our club, you've made it perfectly clear your content with no structure, dues and all the other things that extremely bother you about our club and ideas. I don't need your sarcasm which was noted through your post. Have a good day.
whoa, wait a minute there. there was no sarcasm in my comment and i did not intend to offend you. i don't think that there's any legitimate reason for you to mount an offensive attack.

you said that you've formed a "not for profit organization," and the words "not for profit organization" are a precise legal term that describes a specific type of legal entity that is tax-exempt as a charity. any money that gets donated to a not for profit organization is considered a tax-deductible charitable contribution by the IRS. i know this from first-hand experience as an officer of a genuine, IRS-approved not-for-profit organization.

Fwiw, i had planned on attending your meeting. in fact, i had discussed the possibility of delivering another interested person's tub of salt at the meeting. now you've made it clear that because i am asking detailed questions, i am not welcome to join your club. i find that worrisome.

if you're going to describe your club project as a non-profit organization and you're going to collect money from people, then its important that people understand exactly what your entity is (and what it is not) before any monetary transaction takes place. if its not chartered as a 501(c)(3) corporation then its really not a good idea to represent it as a not for profit organization. if its a co-op, or a something along those lines, then it would be good to provide an accurate description before you start soliciting money so that there are no misunderstandings and nobody is unhappy. if the club will have no formal organization and won't have a Tax ID number and is attempting to collect money while flying under the radar without filing tax returns, then that should be disclosed too, as it can cause significant liability problems in the future for the people who might be elected to act as officers. on the outside chance that the club dues might be used to fund a web site that provides an advertising outlet for your business, that should be disclosed as well.

yes, as it turns out, forming a club and doing it properly is more complicated than most people think of it as being. that's one good reason to be informally organized, so that friends can throw money into a hat when its needed, rather than formally collecting dues from members. dues collection necessitates accounting, an audit trail, tax returns, and all sorts of headaches.

right now you are soliciting people to join a club that you have organized, and you have expressed a desire to collect money from them. in my previous post i was making a legitimate inquiry about how this money-collecting entity would be organized. your response to a legitimate question was inappropriate. that concerns me. at any rate, i now have the answer that i was looking for.

as someone who has experience as an officer of a genuine not-for-profit charitable corporation, i know how much work it is to create such an entity and to have it approved by the IRS. your use of a specific legal terminology implied that your organization has a specific legal organization that it does not have. to clarify the situation, i asked you a legitimate question in good faith. i am sorry for having made the wrong assumption. i'm also sorry for having offended you. i was not being sarcastic.

thanks for clarifying things for me.
 
Look this post is to see who might be there. If you have an issue please post it somewhere else or come on thursday. I'm not a person with all the answers. I just came from a club and it was a big part of my success in this hobby. I think i have a good outline in what it takes to make a successful club. I'm in contact with the president of past clubs to help myself along the to not make mistakes and make sure it ran smoothly and everyone has a great experience with the hobby. so pleas anyone who can come please say it on this forum any other notes will be brought up on thursday.
 
geez all I meant was we are not here to make money. I also do not own any business. I'll be there.
 
I'm intrigued by the possibility of this club...but I have been reading some things that are already turning me off.

I do have a question for the two of you (seaoflife and patboone7). Since you have just joined RC this month, have you met anyone local on this club that could possibly give us some knowledge of the kind of people you are? Most of us have had interactions with at least one other local member that can tell you what the person was like to deal with.

Also, at the first sign of objection or difference of opinion, you guys are quick to cast said person aside. Not very appealing to join a club with founding members that come off as "my way or the highway".

Not trying to be disrespectful in any way. I am one of those people that feel disrespect has to be earned by knowing the person first and letting them prove themselves unworthy of my respect. Just mentioning my interpretations so far. HTH.

Oh, I will not be able to attend meeting, but am trusting others that I have met to fill me in on what is presented.

Have a great day.

Mike
 
thursday is no good, weekends are usually better for me, but i will be interested to hear what u all come up with.
 
turns out if I am able to make it I will be late. Wife tells me we have company coming thursday for dinner at 5:30. Assuming the meeting still happens I will do my best to get there as soon as I can.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11841080#post11841080 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bigevill
turns out if I am able to make it I will be late. Wife tells me we have company coming thursday for dinner at 5:30. Assuming the meeting still happens I will do my best to get there as soon as I can.
whoa -- for a minute there i had a brainfart and i thought that you were talking about THIS thursday.

having the meeting THIS thursday would surely get anyone's wife mad at them.
 
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