OT:finale of the Sopranos? (WARNING!! do not read if you have it recorded)

cschweitzer

cschweitzer

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Was anyone else as disappointed as I was with the quite possibly dumbest way you could end a Mob saga(in competition with Godfather III for worst travesties of Mafia movie history)? If Phil hadn't got his head run over by an SUV, the whole 1h05m of the so called finale was a complete bore. They should've ended it last week when all the good stuff happened, or at least put this piece of junk on the end of that episode to make it a mini-blowout with thre major characters getting taken to the mattresses. How can you leave his family and his "family" that well in-tact and call a show "finished"?!

ARGHHHH!!! I can't believe I spent the last who knows how many years following this at one point amazing and controversial show to end it like this...it all started going downhill when Tony started talking to fish a few seasons back. Just when I thought the last episodes were going to knock my socks off, they end it with a poof instead of a bang.

Am I the only one that wants my hour and two minutes back...I watched through the credits just to see if they were going to come back on and at least take someone out. I mean, heck, kill Meadow as shes walking into the restaurant...have her get hit by a car. Do SOMETHING!!!
 
i know what u mean man, it was a bad episode. but i think that the ending migt have set the show up for a movie or something, they cant leave it at that
 
i thought it was great because i have been hearing talks of them making a movie and having it start right in the resteraunt where they left off.
 
Worst episode in the shows history. It almost seemed like a joke, and they are going to air the REAL last episode later. They did leave it open for a movie or what not which is great but they still could have finished it in ALLOT better fashion.

They should have had Phil go down with 3 or 4 of his goons in a battle royal. Maybe Tony takes a bullet in the leg before running out of bullets and having to whack phil with his bare hands. Then they could have had Tony limp away down the street into the sunset. Thats how you end a mob saga, not sitting around the table having dinner with the Brady Bunch.
 
It certainly took me by surprise how it ended - I was really expecting something to happen. After 8 years it ends with a black screen. Wheeeeeeeeeeeee.
 
I think we need to be reminded that it is HBO...no comeercials, no regulations on content. What's a movie going to give us that two episodes shown together couldn't? It's just a hapless ploy to not only get my money each month for 8 years, but now to get an extra $20(movie for two). The Simpsons movie is a real movie. There is no way you could give us four episodes and do what they'll be able to do in the movie. The Sopranos just sang their last song in my book. I will not pay for a movie of more mellowdrama crap. Big P***Y getting whacked a while back was where it became almost sit-com like.

I wish I could wrap this whole season in a sock and beat the writer's over the head until pices of skull are flying through the air, whizzing by my face(see, I would have been a much better writer than they). That's a way to off someone...a sock-full of quarters.
 
I have to disagree. I thought the final episode was brilliant. Throughout the whole thing you are waiting and waiting for Tony to bite the bullet and the final few minutes when they are in the diner was the most suspenseful moment in recent TV/Movie history IMOP. I am guessing that they don't do a movie because they basically created closure with most of the characters. Keep in mind that the main point of the whole series was family and Tony's struggle to make his mob family work along with his real family. The final episode has AJ and Meadow finally figuring out what they will do with their lives and it appears that they will move on to be successful. When Tony, Anthony Jr, and Carmella are sitting at the diner Tony is having fun and enjoying the situation and he finally seems at peace. He obviously is no longer concerned about mob issues and most of the antagonists throughout the show are dead including his own crew (besides Pauly of course). On a side note, there were several theories that Pauly was going to take out Tony and Chase did an excellent job of making you think that was going to be the case by making Pauly seem disgruntled but was Pauly ever happy with his situation through out the series?
back on track. Tony also pays visits to his sister and uncle and finalizes everything with them. Visiting his uncle was huge because he vowed to never talk to him again after the shooting.
I think because most people got so worked up thinking that Tony was going to die, disappointment set in when he didn't leaving peopel with a lack of closure.
This is not the first time that a TV show or movie ended with a big ? leaving people asking what happens. Remember the brief case in Pulp Fiction.
 
Anthony Jr has never done any of his projects right...what makes me think he's actually going to stick with this one. Meadow changes her mind about career paths about as much as she does boyfriends...it absurd to think either of the kids will stay loyal to their chosen belief structure they had at the end of the show. Why show the guy in the restaurant ten friggin times to have him just walk out? So, Tony's being indicted, Carm is buying a new house with money that obviously will not be there when Tony is put away, Meadow may go into law, Anthony Jr. is obviously going to run someone over with his new car, or get depressed and skip out on work and not have a job

The only person in his crew that should've been whacked was Pauly...what a jackass. Syl was such a sweetheart and Bobby never meant to hurt a soul. He walks in, sees that his uncle is senile and remembers nothing and walks out. Does he pay for him to stay at that place or send him to the state institution? Okay, I'll give you his sister's story...it gets pretty well wrapped up, but we still don't know what's gonna happen to her kids. Sure, Pauly's happy now that he's second in command and when Tony goes to jail, he'll be running Jersey. I don't care if Tony dies, just have something happen.

Everyone seems complacent at the end, yet if anyone has watched more than one episode, they would know that it is a false complacency. Once they leave the restaurant, the grind begins again. Maybe that was the point: always make time for family. Still, it makes no sense for any of them to be complacenjt like that at the end.

I guess shows are like taste buds, everyone has a different idea of what a flavor is.
 
The difference is two hours were dedicated to the briefcase of pulp fiction and that was the point to let you decide what was going on in that briefcase(I always thought a Hawaiian luow).

I spent season after widely dispersed season just waiting for the next episode to arrive. Then you end with no closure...adn yes, there are a lot of shows that leave with a big ?, but it doesn't mean any of those shows left me satisfied.
 
You make a lot of good points. I was also thinking something similar but I refuse to admit that nothing has really been achomplished on the show in the last 8 years character wise but most "ground breaking" shows do things like this, case in point Seinfeld - a great show that was about absolutely nothing.
 
I agree completely. The show has changed television in a dramatic fashion. It will be something that is remembered throughout our history as a major turning point in bringing more movie-like atmosphere to television. And hey, they did do some good killing toward the end...guess I just wished they would have done something better than set up a dinner in the last 30 minutes ever being aired. The music made it seem like something was going down. The guy walking into the restaurant and looking at Tony 5 times and then just leaving...I was just hoping that the 5 minute car parking scene of Meadow's led to something more than just that she was a bad parrallel parker.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10121661#post10121661 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by cschweitzer
And hey, they did do some good killing toward the end...guess I just wished they would have done something better than set up a dinner in the last 30 minutes ever being aired.
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The way Phil went out was pretty brutal. CRUNCH!!!:eek2:
 
Yeah, but he was already dead, had they shot him, kept him alive, and purposefully done that, that would have been spectacular and maybe made the episode that one step more controversial.
 
I think Tony got whacked. Earlier on Bobby says that you wont know it when you get killed, it just goes black. So we see it from Tonys eyes what its like to get killed, it just goes black.
 
Yeah, I heard that theory, but I think that's a cheap way of getting out of a good scene if he actually did get whacked.
 
I have to disagree ;) What David Chase did, was ultimately leave the ending up to the viewers to decide for themselves... He's the one who has decided the fate of all of the characters for the 8 years the show has been on, and now, he's left it up to us.. He really did an awesome job at setting everything up for us.. Think about it- people will be talking and theorizing about what did or didn't happen for years.. For instance, Phil's crew comes in and brutally murders the whole family; or Tony gets indicted; or Pauly rolled over at the end because he didn't want to sign a death sentance to himself by taking the job that always ends up in death ( the cat was eyeballing the rat ;); or the trucker in the last scene (brother of the one that crissy killed in the 2nd or 3rd season) kills tony; or The man sitting at the bar in the last scene ( phil leotardo's nephew in the credits) kills tony; who takes over the NY faimily; what happens to syl; it just keeps going on and on.. I think David Chase ended the series in true David Chase fasion, or maybe he just ran out of ideas in the end.. I do think we will see a movie come out in a few years, or even a new season or spin off in a few years..

my .02 ;)
 
It ended like it began... a day in the life of the mob...

the crime and life just goes on. that night they ate pasta...PERFECT!
 
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