Palythoa Zoos

[dutchone]

Just wondering how many of you have purchased the Purple People Eater (Palythoa) Zoos from Blain Perun? How hardy are they and do they color up like his pictures of them, which are awesome?

 

[Stixbaraca]

I don't think he (BP) has personally sold any of his in a long time...and I haven't personally seen any pictures people have taken of theirs that look quite like his pictures!

 

[twon8]

and they aren't palythoa, but rather zoanthid gigantus

 

[dutchone]

He has advertised on his site right now, "clones" from the original colony. Is this not accurate? I really want to know the true species in his photos of the Purple People Eater.

 

[twon8]

got a link?

 

[dutchone]

I have it on my favorites at work. I just used Google the very same way I did to find him the other day, and it ain't working. Damn Google...

 

[dutchone]

Okay, here it is. You can never sit by and let Google beat you.

http://www.farms-of-thesea.com/catalog/product/PPE_Clone.html

 

[gflat65]

Species is Zoanthus gigantus, but those don't look like PPE's (no green skirt). They look more like red/maroon PE's... I guess if he named em, he can call em what he wants.

 

[RevHtree]

Clever wording....He has great PPE pics though!

 

[dutchone]

http://www.nightvision411.com/ppe.jpg

Tell me that isn't beautiful......and tell me that isn't a Purple People Eater.

 

[RevHtree]

I can make mine look like that. As soon as they start geting aggrivated by you moving them or something, they start to stick there belly out so to speak and the skirt tightens up making it greener.

I'll show you with a few pics tomorrow.

 

[EvilInSin]

He doesnt actually say those are from the original PPE colony.

That is just his general definition of what a fragment is, its on most of his listings for anything he is selling as a frag sized item. Those kinds of things need to be read very carefully.

 

[pufferpoison]

you want to look at some nice looking PPE's check out RevHtree's. his sheetz is da bomb!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[gflat65]

Clone implies the same genetic strain (which would include color in this case, as the color doesnt usually shift so much that colors like green are completely lost-I know they are both Z. gigantus). If it were a clone, it would look like the original. You don't clone sheep and end up with a pig... Does this mean that anything that comes from Perun now is a PPE clone, even though it may look nothing like a PPE?

 

[Chad Vossen]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7862247#post7862247 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by gflat65
Clone implies the same genetic strain (which would include color in this case, as the color doesnt usually shift so much that colors like green are completely lost-I know they are both Z. gigantus). If it were a clone, it would look like the original. You don't clone sheep and end up with a pig... Does this mean that anything that comes from Perun now is a PPE clone, even though it may look nothing like a PPE?

if you clone a cat, the clone will look different. same cat just different pattern on fur.

 

[gflat65]

Isn't propagation cloning? You clone a plant by cutting a piece off of it and it grows into the same plant. Granted, growth form is controlled by ambient conditions, so it may not look exactly like the tree it came from in form. Did he scientifically clone the polyp from DNA strands and create it in a lab? I didn't know they had moved on to zoanthids. If so, then, wow and I need to catch up with the times. If he means clone in the traditional plant sense (that these are animals cloudies the specifics in the water of this argument a little...), that would imply that it came directly from an existing colony and would have the same characteristics (or potential charateristics, depeding on ambient conditions, as well trees and other plants) as the colony it came from. See where I'm coming from?

 

[jjmcat]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7859669#post7859669 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by twon8
and they aren't palythoa, but rather zoanthid gigantus

But they were at one point right.

 

[gflat65]

They were Protopaly's before. Of course, Protopaly included the green and brown button polyps, which take sand into their coenenchyme, so are Paly's. As a descriptor, Protopaly is still around, but it may soon be deleted from the books as a genus, as I understand it. Some that were called Protopalythoa are actually Zoanthus, and some are Palythoa.

To me, all larger polyped varieties (people eaters and brown and green button polyps included) were Protopalys, all smaller zoas were Zoanthus. I only ever thought of Palythoa's to be the ones with the deeply embedded coenenchyme (essentially, a mat with mouths that open-almost no stalk). Everyone remembers the old days differently, though. That's why science is so important...