pappone and BLU Coral method
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rickkott13
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i just feeded it tonight for the first time. i used the method 5 each seafood,red algae aa...etc...should i turn off my steam pumps after the feeding?? also i have a refuge light on doing night time.. should i turn that off too? dont know just wondering.. and also i think i my water is kinda bit high for nitrate and amonia. havnt have a chance to test it out yet but i was planning to have a water change tommorrow. is that a good idea?? some info will help alot thanks..
rickkott13
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oh yea.. every seafood is fresh from the market...
rickkott13
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crazedreefer
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This sounds great...however, I would like to see before and after photos of specific corals. The hardest part about anything like this is, it is the most subjective matter possible. Everyone has their own thoughts on what good color is, dark or light, rich or pastel. So it is just so hard to call this a success due to no photo graphs...I have stuck with halides, because all T-5 tanks I have seen, seem to have washed out color, now if you ask those t-5 people, they have awesome color. This is not a debate thread, just simply giving an example.
So people who have noticed a major shift in color difference could possibly have not so brilliant colors, but they do not know because they have not seen alot of other tanks that have brilliant colors. This is just a hypothetical here, so please no one take offense. But with out any sort of picture this can just not be justifiable...
This goes for anything, people claim there growth is better with X product, but offer no source of proof as to what is better...now if people were to measure 10 corals for 6 months and then added product X and the growth rate increases to more MM monthly then we are onto to something...
I would just really like to see specific before and after photos of multiple people's corals over a decent period of time...
So people who have noticed a major shift in color difference could possibly have not so brilliant colors, but they do not know because they have not seen alot of other tanks that have brilliant colors. This is just a hypothetical here, so please no one take offense. But with out any sort of picture this can just not be justifiable...
This goes for anything, people claim there growth is better with X product, but offer no source of proof as to what is better...now if people were to measure 10 corals for 6 months and then added product X and the growth rate increases to more MM monthly then we are onto to something...
I would just really like to see specific before and after photos of multiple people's corals over a decent period of time...
rickkott13
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how do you post pics here?
DarkXerox
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Yeah rick your tank shouldn't have any ammonia readings whatsoever, that is not good. I would not try this method unless your tank is already stable because you will only run into problems.
Tell us about your tank (size, skimmer type , lighting, flow, etc.).
crazedreefer: go run a search and look at my tank thread as well. The reason main people are using this here is to up nutrient levels in tanks where colors are washed out, as well as supplement growth in others. My LPS have benefited the most as I have said many times, but my SPS growth has been taking off as well since I started a few months back.
crab0000
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First you need to host the picture somewhere (Photobucket, etc.) Then right click picture and go to properties and copy the address there. Next go to reply, click the img tag and paste the address into the image tag, make the rest of the post and submit reply. HTH
Here's an old pic of my tank (making sure I'm right since it has been a while since I posted a pic)
rickkott13
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rickkott13
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pics pics
full tank shot
The bad stuff
bad smell on G2
DSBB. i still need to finish the cover...i'm so lazy
thanks alot for helping me out for posting pics here.. =)
full tank shot
The bad stuff
bad smell on G2
DSBB. i still need to finish the cover...i'm so lazy
thanks alot for helping me out for posting pics here.. =)
rickkott13
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DSBB. still need to finish the cover.. i'm so lazy
firsts things first if you have ammonia and nitratae your tanks not ready for SPS forget and I mean "FORGET" about Pappone. Pappone is meant for established tanks that are nutrient free,
"PLEASE DO NOT TAKE THIS AS ME BEING MEANAT ALL" .
You need to do at least 10% WC on your tank every week FOREVER. Get good test kits. Lamottes CAL/ALK/NITRATE are alot better then salifert. Phosphate get a Hanna. As for Ammonia and Nitrite Instantoceans test kits are fine. The alage you seem to have is red slime alage. One of the main reason for red slime alage is low flow. I have 4 tunze 6100's in mt 120g which is overkill my return pump is a red dragin 8.2 at 2200 gph. But you should have more flow. DO NOT USE PAPONEE untill you get your nutrinte (AMMONIA?NITITE to 0" When that happens you need to get your Phosphates to at least .04 on a Hanna testkit. And then you will see great results at this point. ,And at this point you will then use Pappone and see great results. now this is just JMHO and how I have seen great results
"PLEASE DO NOT TAKE THIS AS ME BEING MEANAT ALL" .
You need to do at least 10% WC on your tank every week FOREVER. Get good test kits. Lamottes CAL/ALK/NITRATE are alot better then salifert. Phosphate get a Hanna. As for Ammonia and Nitrite Instantoceans test kits are fine. The alage you seem to have is red slime alage. One of the main reason for red slime alage is low flow. I have 4 tunze 6100's in mt 120g which is overkill my return pump is a red dragin 8.2 at 2200 gph. But you should have more flow. DO NOT USE PAPONEE untill you get your nutrinte (AMMONIA?NITITE to 0" When that happens you need to get your Phosphates to at least .04 on a Hanna testkit. And then you will see great results at this point. ,And at this point you will then use Pappone and see great results. now this is just JMHO and how I have seen great results
DarkXerox
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yeah, Tanya is right, many other people have had problems since they have no clue what their nutrient levels are before they start feeding or overfeed.
How much did you feed? For your size tank you really should start with only half a cube (1 cubic cm or so) just to make sure nothing happens. Thats why I stressed that point in the instructions. A lot of people think they have heavy skimming then find out after this just how borderline they were!
How much did you feed? For your size tank you really should start with only half a cube (1 cubic cm or so) just to make sure nothing happens. Thats why I stressed that point in the instructions. A lot of people think they have heavy skimming then find out after this just how borderline they were!
rickkott13
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i put the slush in ince cubes 20ml each.. onces it freezes i cut it to 4 cubes about 5ml each feeding.. I do change water everyweek. about 15 gallons. hmm.. maybe i do need more steams.. i notices theres alot of dead spot in my tank.. Thankyou Tanya for helping me out on testkit brand. i'll try to get it this week. Cuz i really needed one. And also i needed a Skimmer. Nonmoded ASM kinda sucks.. =)
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DarkXerox
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Yeah the recurring thing I hear from the italians is have a powerful skimmer if you are going to try this. All the critters in my tank eat up any extra that in my tank (I use 2 cubes each feeding twice a week since I've slowly ramped up to this with a skimmer rated for 90gal + on my 29g).
Hi guys
I wonder if you think I am ready to try this method
58 gallon BB with rubbermaid stock tank sump and a H&S recirc skimmer, filter sock, GFO and carbon in phosban reactors
Parameters: Temp 79.0, pH 8.0 - 8.1, Ca 380 (trying to increase slowly), Alk 9.6, NO3 5-10, Phos undetectable by Merck
Also I read the thread but now I can't remember some of the details
Just dissolve the cube in SW and then add to tank after lights out
Also - when they say remove the skimmer cup - what do people do who have an external recirc skimmer - just dial down the bubble level with the riser tube adjustment?
Thanks in advance!
I wonder if you think I am ready to try this method
58 gallon BB with rubbermaid stock tank sump and a H&S recirc skimmer, filter sock, GFO and carbon in phosban reactors
Parameters: Temp 79.0, pH 8.0 - 8.1, Ca 380 (trying to increase slowly), Alk 9.6, NO3 5-10, Phos undetectable by Merck
Also I read the thread but now I can't remember some of the details
Just dissolve the cube in SW and then add to tank after lights out
Also - when they say remove the skimmer cup - what do people do who have an external recirc skimmer - just dial down the bubble level with the riser tube adjustment?
Thanks in advance!
