Phosphate questions

dieseldaisy

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i just purchased a phosphate checker from Hanna, and I checked it two times this week and got .06-.09 ppm on the checker. I have a dual brs reactor I was thinking about intergrating into my system but before I do I was looking for some help with understanding phosphate levels? are my levels low enough that I should not bother putting the gfo reactor in place?
 
And since it is a dual reactor, you can run something different in the other chamber besides phosphate remover, more carbon, gfo, etc.
 
Yeah, lots of not-so-good things happen once it starts getting above 0.03. You'll see slow results from hooking up the reactor, and with levels that low likely slow use of the GFO as well, but I would do it.
 
.03 - .05 is a solid target, keeping it at .02 to .03 will limit algae

I would use the reactor with GFO. use the BRS calculator to figure out how much. start with 1/2 and work up slowly. Make sure to rinse before letting into the system - with the reactors I run tank water through them and catch the waste until it is clear.
 
Definitely use the reactor for GFO! Even if you had no problem, it wouldn't ever hurt to run one. With the levels you report in this case, you "should" run one. To help the situation more than just weekly water changes or skimming(with trying to export) and other import issues/food/waste breakdown etc.. which can make even very low levels- often grow undesirable stuff. Or effect some lifeforms(corals) Even when some tests say very little to no phosphate...

The reactors in most peoples cases are still warranted equipment, well worth having regardless of levels.

I agree with others saying here about it and the style- No offense but the "Dual" sucks. Either get a single or better yet, Mod it to be single like Tonynlo did. It will run better. Sometimes companies produce things trying to be more efficient or market them in a way to solve multiple problems in one unit. It cost more than a single but less than 2 singles getting the same job done. That's the thought- more for your money. BUT the problem is it doesn't work good using both GFO and carbon in a dual. One especially- carbon always gets messed up quicker and screws things up. As well as the pump efficiency is down, on how it actually lets the dual perform both.

So, long story short, just run GFO in a single. It works best.
Granulated Ferric Oxide(GFO) tumbled properly is essential.

(IMO) Carbon is a great polisher everyone should use to varying certain degrees depending on their particular tank. BUT not as important "tumbled" as GFO is. You'd be OK like most (IMO) just running some Carbon in a filter bag in a general flow area and changed at least monthly. Don't use too much either. Carbon however good, can also be over used and cause some less commonly seen negative effects. (perhaps on some fish species) Less is more with Carbon.

GFO is King.
 
.03 - .05 is a solid target, keeping it at .02 to .03 will limit algae

I would use the reactor with GFO. use the BRS calculator to figure out how much. start with 1/2 and work up slowly. Make sure to rinse before letting into the system - with the reactors I run tank water through them and catch the waste until it is clear.

+1 to all of this. Add GFO s-l-o-w-l-y. Start with half or a third the "dose" suggested by the vendor, keep checking levels and keep an eye on your livestock. Dropping too low can be bad for the health of your corals.

(IMO) Carbon is a great polisher everyone should use to varying certain degrees depending on their particular tank. BUT not as important "tumbled" as GFO is.

Tumbling carbon is not only not important, it's a very bad idea. It'll cause it to break down into dust over time.

GFO and carbon do totally different things and despite being similar in appearance, need to be treated totally differently IMHO. So, here's another vote for separating the reactor into two parts. Or, keep it as-is and run GFO in both parts (half your "dose" in each). Then, change them at different intervals - this will allow you to keep a more consistent level over time vs. shocking the tank each time you swap out the media.
 
der_wille_zur_macht; Tumbling carbon is not only not important said:
Exactly. I agree in full. Kinda what I meant when I referred to it getting screwed up in the second reactor chamber of a dual, by people that have tried that. I don't even believe in people using carbon in a single chamber reactor either. It's a bad choice.

Carbon is to be used sparingly and simply with caution as a good tool. But shouldn't go in a reactor. The dust is dangerous and leaching of substances from it is bad for systems too.

GFO works wonders when approached correctly as you stated. It's king (IMO) for helping keep systems clear of even low level phosphates and is very efficient used in a single chamber BRS reactor IME or another suitable reactor used by other hobbyists.
 
lots of good info here . thanks. kinda scared to use it now! I will def. start with a very small amount if I do! thanks

Don't be scared to use it, if your phosphates are already that low your chances of shocking anything from too much GFO are pretty slim.
 
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