Phosphate removers

ASaleem91

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I have just bought a phosban reactor and was wondering if the phosban media is the best phosphate remover out there. If not, which phosphate remover is the BEST?

Thanks,
ASaleem91:rollface:
 
I don't think there's much, well, any, real data on how the various phosphate removes work, so any of the usual suspects, Phosban, RowaPhos, Salifert, etc, are reasonable choices, IMO.
 
I use Phosgaurd by seachem, I had a phostphate problem last week, from testing for it... & the phosban along with water changes took care of the problem in 1 week. My phosphates are as low as I can get them right now, and the red slime algae that was starting to form has disappeared from my tank.
 
Not meaning to hijack this thread but the question I have fits right in, how long does it take for phosban in a reactor to start giving noticable effects. I have a 110 and had a very slight phosphate problem. Figured this would do the trick. Just wondering how long it takes.
 
Ummm I use PhosGuard & on the bottle it says after using recommened dosage for your tank.

Leave product in place for 4 days, then test phosphate or silicate concentrations. If the concentration of the component you are trying to decrease has not dropped to around 0.02mg/L, then replace the PhosGuard, otherwise leave in place untill levels begin to climb again. As long as concentrations remain under control, the product is not exhausted.

Thats what it says on my bottle of Phosgaurd, and like I said above I tested for phosphates found that they were arouns 1.0ppm, did an immidete water change, and added phosgaurd. Next day phosphate test showed .50- .75ppm which is getting lower for one day, did another water change, on my third day my phosphate levels were below .50 and did not do a water change. By weeks end into the 8th day my phosphates were as low as I could get them with this product and water changes and now my Red slime problem as gone away.

The product that I'm using worked really well in my tank, and I'm happy with its work on getting my phosphates into control in as little time as possible.
 
I wouldn't use PhosGuard since it's aluminum-based, and there's some worries about aluminum being released. Aluminum can be a problem for coral. The chemistry forum has more on this topic, or I can post a link, if anyone's interested in the details.
 
I agree with Bertoni ,stay away from phosban due to it's aluminum content. There have been studies done that elevated levels of aluminum are detrimental to corals and oher inverts. RowAPhos all the way.............. IMO I use it because of all the great feedback I have heard on it and it works great.

Do yourself a favor even tho, the package says you dont have to rinse it first, I highly suggest you do. I dang near had a stroke the first time I used it because I did not rinse but evidently there was a lot of micro particles and when I added it to my sump there was a huge rust colored explosion of color in the tank and I could not see a thing for hours. I freaked out severly thought I hd commited coralacide :) I now rinse before use.
 
When I first got my reactor going with phosban I read the directions and they stated to run a couple of gallons of water through the reactor before placing the reactor into the sump. Sure am glad I did this, as the water in the bucket from the first couple of gallons was rust colored as you stated. This was after rinsing using the sock that comes with the phosban.
 
Yea I made that mistake. Why read the directions. Well I wish I had. The tank was a mess and lots of black particles in my sump. I spend 3 hours today working on cleaning up the mess. I don't think there was any long term harm done.

I use the Rowaphos because of the aluminum concerns in other products.

Regards,

Pat
 
....I agree with Bertoni ,stay away from phosban due to it's aluminum content......
Did you mean to Phosguard?
 
I think john meant what I was talking about, Phosguard, RIGHT ???

Did not know that about Phosguard... Will take it out of my tank, and switch to other stuff, RowAPhos I believe is what you said was the best ??? I will place that in my next order with marine depot... Thank you for the advice john.
 
PhosBan is iron-based. I've got some of that (came free with a reactor), and it's definitely rusty-looking. PhosGuard is the aluminum-based product, I believe.

Putting it in a bag and pushing water through it should do the trick.
 
This should clear it up..........

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-11/rhf/index.php

AND

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/july2003/chem.htm

Randys articles will tell you everything you need to know.

Its Phosguard(Seachem) that you have to watch out for, NOT Phosban(Two Little Fishies). Phosguard has been proven to leach aluminum..........its in the link.
Phosban and Rowaphos are fine to use.....they work best in a reactor to suspend the media at a slow flow.
Any iron-based phosphate remover.........ferric oxide hydroxide.........iron hydroxide, should be safe.
As of right now there is not enough testing to determine if Phosban or Rowaphos is better. Phosban is a bit cheaper.........thats what I am using, in the Phosban Reactor. The Reactor is really the best way to use Phosban or Rowaphos as it keeps the media suspended in a constant "fluidized" state.

Good Reading.................

HTH...........Later...........Herbie
 
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