Pics of systems using "supercharged" kalkwasser

[galleon]

If you have a system where you use vinegar/acetic acid to turbo boost your kalkwasser, post it here!

 

[acrohead500ppm]

adding vinegar/ acids to a calcium hydroxide solution is not going to impact your calcium levels that much, plain limewater has a calcium content of about 900ppm, it has been shown that using acids to bring the normal pH of 12 down so the solution can hold more calcium has limited results.
a calcium level of 1200ppm is about the limit it can hold.
point is its not going to make a masive difference

 

[swanny]

Yeah, not sure what pics you are looking for. "Supercharging" kalk is not going to make your sps look any different than a normal mixed kalk.

 

[Donkeykong]

adding vinegar/ acids to a calcium hydroxide solution is not going to impact your calcium levels that much, plain limewater has a calcium content of about 900ppm, it has been shown that using acids to bring the normal pH of 12 down so the solution can hold more calcium has limited results.
a calcium level of 1200ppm is about the limit it can hold.
point is its not going to make a masive difference

By your own statement adding vinegar can increase the calcium added by 33%, that is a significant increase, especially to those that are falling just short of keeping up with calcium needs with standard Kalk mix. I do not have any person experience with using vinegar so I am just going off the numbers you stated in your own argument.

And to the OP, Mixing vinegar to kalk just helps be able to add extra calcium when a system requires more than naturally saturated kalk can supply, so any pics would just be of a healthy system with correct levels of calcium. Are you looking for pictures of how people have there Kalk with vinegar setup?

 

[FrogfishFeeder]

Since I started adding vinegar to my kalk, I have seen my ca-based corals double their growth rate.
Its been about 3weeks now.

However, its a double-edged blade.... By adding vinegar to kalk I have increased the growth rate, but that increased growth is suckin down the ca like crazy, I have to keep using more and more to keep up.

Dont forget about alk and mag!

 

[bmiller1234]

A big thing that is missed with vinegar or vodka addition to kalk is your now carbon dosing also. Most of the results when people notice color change and growth spurts is due to carbon dosing and not that little bit extra calcium.

 

[rigleautomotive]

A big thing that is missed with vinegar or vodka addition to kalk is your now carbon dosing also. Most of the results when people notice color change and growth spurts is due to carbon dosing and not that little bit extra calcium.

Very true.Careful with the vinegar.Positive results can quickly turn negative when toying with the natural balance of bacteria in a closed system with sea water.Also worth mentioning,using different re-mineralization methods will most definitely effect coral color and growth along with its appearance over time.Kalk has it own set of impurities and values which will effect the animal a certain way.Two part is riddled with impurities and also has its own effects on the animals.And Cal RX have the added CO2 and media impurities that get added to the equation.So quantitatively speaking,IME,different forms of re-mineralization will effect the appearance of a given coral.

 

[dirtyBit]

Kalk has it own set of impurities and values which will effect the animal a certain way.

It is my understanding that kalk precipitates many impurities so that you end up with even purer water than what you started with.

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-07/rhf/index.php#9

 

[rigleautomotive]

It is my understanding that kalk precipitates many impurities so that you end up with even purer water than what you started with.

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-07/rhf/index.php#9

Semi correct imo.The water is not purer or it would be zero tds again.or lower actually.The fact that lime water has been shown to precipitate certain heavy metals does not make it a water sterilizer and d ionizer.the link below shows the tables of the impurities in Mississippi lime and typical food grade lime.As you can see there is arsenic,lead,fluoride,aluminum and some other goodies.If some of these things can be harmful in the parts per million range in our reefs,you can see why I see them as impurities.Dosing some of the solids when using kalk is inevitable and can be a issue especially if water changes and export is not done long term.

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-04/rhf/feature/index.php

 

[rwb500]

By your own statement adding vinegar can increase the calcium added by 33%, that is a significant increase, especially to those that are falling just short of keeping up with calcium needs with standard Kalk mix.

but still compared to a tank using two part dosing or a calcium reactor, the calcium and alk addition could be relatively tiny. and the carbon dosing aspect of it is also quite minimal compared to the full potential of techniques like biopellets, vodka, VSV, etc..

in conclusion, a "supercharged kalk" tank is not going to look special in any way.

 

[xcorallusx]

but still compared to a tank using two part dosing or a calcium reactor, the calcium and alk addition could be relatively tiny. and the carbon dosing aspect of it is also quite minimal compared to the full potential of techniques like biopellets, vodka, VSV, etc..

in conclusion, a "supercharged kalk" tank is not going to look special in any way.

I dont agree, if anything it will have better growth and better colors from the carbon dosing, the only drawback is a lowered pH.

Has anyone tried using apple cider vinegar?

 

[karsseboom]

Yep pretty much what everyone else said, adding vinegar just allows more kalk to adsorb into the water which increases the alk and cal. It's not gonna make a different in coral color or growth.