Planning on a 10g Hex tank

directional

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I plan on turning my 10g hex tank into a small reef tank.

Currently I have a basic hood on it with a AC 30 HOB which I want to turn into a refugium. (Cheato / Sand / LR )

I will be adding approx 10-15 lbs of LR

What else do I need to make this happen?

I am not really sure how to make a reef tank. (I have a 55gal FOWLR)

Suggestions / Price of the equipment I will need?

It should be enough flow in the tank considering its a hex tank right?

Thanks.:rollface:

( Keep in mind I am on a very tight budget !!! I am doing this really just as a project ) :)
 
so far you pretty much got everything besides a couple things. But imo reef isnt really that different than fowlr. Some of the equipment choices would be different a little..but not really once you look at it all.

Your rock is gonna be plenty to filter, and that ac 30 would prolly be enough flow, altho i'd prolly turn it down if possible and add another small powerhead just so you can have a more random flow (put it on the opposite side as the AC) If you can turn the AC down, i'd try and get it to about half, so that you've got about 15 times total volume turnover/hour, and add another small powerhead that does maybe 100 gph..that will get you to about 25 which is good.

But then all you're really gonna need is lights...what type of corals do you wanna get?

IMO you dont need a skimmer for a 10, but they sure help if you can get one.
 
Thats the thing I dont know much about Corals.. I would want to go with something that is very easy to take care of . ( for coral atleast ).

Which lighting would be good / cheap for my shape tank? I may even be able to get my hands on a AC55.

What do you think would be good?

Also how many / what fish can I keep for this type of tank.

Sorry for all the noob questions!
 
corals...i'd say any softie is easy. Stuff like xenia, green star polyps, pretty much any polyp, lots of stuff like that...go to liveaquaria.com and look at their corals to see what you like.

that will determine your light, but if you want softies, i'd say go w/at least a 65 watt pc light
 
Do you have any pictue / price of that type of light? ( Sorry to be such a pain in the *** lighting is my only big big weak side. I appreciate all of the help. )
 
Scrap that 10 gallon hex, thats going to be a pain to aquascape, get a 15 or twenty long, they dont require as much because their shallow and a hex is just weird, the lighitng would be hard to do. It wont cost much for a new tank, and you will be alot happier in the end.
 
lighting is the most important thing in a reef tank.

personally, i think a 96 watt pc-quad would be the way to go, because as you go you will find yourself in the 'want it but dont know if i have enough lighting for it' senario. i think it would be better to get more than you think you need right now.

http://shopping.msn.com/prices/shp/?itemId=458978430

and just hang it on a little shelf above the tank a little ways

my $0.02
 
Scrap that 10 gallon hex, thats going to be a pain to aquascape, get a 15 or twenty long, they dont require as much because their shallow and a hex is just weird, the lighitng would be hard to do. It wont cost much for a new tank, and you will be alot happier in the end.

again lol...same as in the other thread, imo if you like how your 10 is, why get a 15 or 20 instead? Any tank can be hard to aquascape...just depends on what you have for rock. If you dont have any that can "lock" together and be stacked easily, then you're gonna end up having to go lenghtwise for the most part like i did for my 55. I wish i would have gotten more "boulder' shaped rocks for lack of better word, because i just got a bunch of weird shapes that dont fit together, so it ended up not going very high.

but yes, i agree w/zero too. I just put that 65 as what i would personally get as the minimum for softies (and i was heading out the door so i didnt have time to add what he did lol)

But if possible, try to get a 2x65 pc..that way you can have one 10K daylight, and one actinic. I dont like using 50/50 bulbs because they dont put out as much PAR or whatever its called. And if possible, try to get that one 70w metal halide clip on one from docfoster and smith...its like 150 so if you've got the money, that would be a great light imo.
 
Okay so I think I will just make it a FOWLR at first and when I scrap up some money or find someone selling the light I will get it and go with coral..

How much sand ( and can I use sand from the local beach if I boil it? ) and how many fish can I put in the tank?

I would like atleast 2 fish if possible but someone said I can only fit a single fish in the tank. What do you think?
 
I agree w/ Henry22, that tank is going to be a pain to light. All of the lights mentioned , with the exception of the MH, are going to hang over the sides pretty far. A 10hex is 14" at it's widest point. The 96w PC hood is 20" and 65w PC hoods are 24".
 
there are no lights that I could put in my current hood that will be strong enough?

I guess I will just do FOWLR..

What can I do fish wise? and can I use sand from my local beach if I boil it?
 
I have a 5 Gallon Hex tank that I turned into a reef tank. It works just fine, and I really like the look of the hex tanks.

The AC 30 will be fine. I run an AC 20 on the back of my 5 gallon full blast and the sand doesn't move at all. Just slide the filter so the output is all the way to the corner so you will have some deflection off the front corner and not just current running straight down the front pane to the sand.

I think you might be better served with two pouches of SeaChem Purigen in the filter rather than Chaeto and live sand. It's a bit small for all of that and the modding and lighting will add to the expense. The Purigen will remove the nitrogenous wastes and they can be cleaned by soaking them in a 50/50 mix of water and bleach overnight, then rinsing them and soaking them overnight again with a few drops of chlorine remover. Will save you a ton of money in the long run. I bought 3 pouches and swap one out every two weeks.

In my 15 High I just stuff a ball of chaeto behind a rock with good lighting and flow. It grows well and is doing it's thing as well as if it was in a refugium without the expense or hassle.

So you have the tank- very cool tank BTW. You have the circulation and the filtration. (You should be fine just buying one pouch of Purigen to use at first, then the other two every two weeks to spread out the expense.

As far as sand goes... Do you have any in the 55 tank that you already have established? If so, just scoop enough out of it for about a half inch deep sand bed, just enough to show slightly above the bottom frame. That would be great to use sand that is already live from your other tank, unless you have ever used any copper based medications. Then you might want to take a sample of your water from the 55 to your LFS and ask them to test it for any traces of copper.

Same thing with the live rock. Are there any smallish, intricate and interesting pieces that you could easily remove and use in this tank. I'd look for one that is more long and narrow than flat. Most of the corals that you can put in this tank will come attached to rocks that are rather small and flat, i.e. zoos, polyps, and mushrooms. So you don't need to fill it originally or there wont be any room for the coral covered rocks that you will add later. You just need a central piece or two to give some verticalness to your aquascape.

My 5 is so small that I looked for a single piece of Tonga branch that had a good height and an open, arched shape. I placed it back from dead center to give a little depth with a sand bed in front of it, and it hides the heater, temp senser and the intake of the AC 20.

You do have a number of options for lighting. None of them are too expensive. I have the Coralife dual 9 watt fixture over my 5 Hex. It is a solid little light. It is 12" from the light to my sand bed and the small frags of Dragon Eye Zoos that I have on the sandbed expand out flat, grow and are producing new polyps- a sign that they are happy with the light and they are in the dimmest area of the tank. Any other frags that need a bit more light get moved up onto the rock closer to the light. This will take some experimentation. It's a little over $30 and replacement bulbs are about $10 each.

When I bought mine I told the guy at the LFS what I had in mind; and that I would need a piece of eggcrate light diffuser to cover the top of the tank, so I could set the light directly on it. He threw in a piece that I cut down to size, thus saving myself about $10 at Lowes for a 2' by 4' sheet that I didn't need. It looks pretty cool, will keep your fish from jumping out, will keep your cat out, and it will allow for great air flow to keep the tank and light cooler and the water oxygenated. The light has an acrylic splash guard and is well sealed, so you shouldn't have to worry about any moisture problems unles you touch it with salty fingers.
"I'll buy this light if I can get a piece of eggcrate to set it on over my tank." ;)

Your other option might be one of the new Perchlights or gooseneck lights by Red Sea. They are both power compacts and clip to the side of your tank. You could use one or two.

Or you might put two actinic bulbs into the Coralife Mini and a 50/50 into either gooseneck lights. Then you can double your lighting and do dusk/dawn simulations as well. Maybe something that you work towards.

The Super Bling-Bling lighting option might be a custom canopy with a PC retrofit kit. Or an HQI pendant. Serious overkill and major bank busters.

I'm with ya! Hex tanks make cool nano reefs.

One more thing: be sure to paint one side of it either black or dark blue before you start. It will help to hide your heater, and you don't want to be able to see the HOB filter thru the tank. My preference would be black to hide the 50 Watt Visitherm Stealth you might need to add this winter. My light and AC 20 add only one degree above ambient on my 5 Hex with the open top.

Reef On!
 
Goby...

In my 55gal tank I have gravel because before I had the appropriate amount of live rock and before I had my protein skimmer I had to do constant water changes. Using the gravel I was able to clean the bottom perfectly. Also I didnt have any type of sand sifter that could clean the bottom so stuff was just getting nasty down there.

http://cgi.ebay.com/9-Coralife-Mini...ano-PC-CF_W0QQitemZ300019241341QQcmdZViewItem

Is that the light you are talking about?


I have never heard about this Purigen stuff, it doesn't need any light to live? That might be perfect. I can just put some cheato tucked behind a rock in the tank then :)

Let me know if im missing anything else!

There are no bulbs I can put in my current hood?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8035159#post8035159 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by directional

I have never heard about this Purigen stuff, it doesn't need any light to live? That might be perfect.

There are no bulbs I can put in my current hood?

Purigen is a resin I believe. Regardless it just goes in your filter. There are different bulbs you could get for your hood that would produce a better spectrum but no where near the intensity that you would need. That money could be better spent elsewhere ;) I can't believe I forgot about the little 2x9w CF hood. I have the 2x18w CF hood on a 5.5g.
 
Good enough for things that aren't going to be to deep in your tank ;) Most people are using that on a 2.5 or 5.5, neither as deep as yours.
 
just get a regular shaped 5.5 (rectangle) and depending on how long and wide, you'd prolly be able to put a stronger light than that 2x9...i would also think that the 2x18 over 5.5 would be pretty good. It should let you grow pretty much any softy i would think (xenia, kenya tree, gsp, polyps, zoos i think..etc...

But in a 5.5 you wont be able to keep sps corals no matter what light imo...just too hard to keep the water as clean as they need it.
 
The CF 9 is onsale right now at www.drsfostersmith.com in the low 20's.

Why buy a new tank? Give it a try with what you have.

And why not a very thin layer of gravel from your established tank? The pods and bristles would love it and keep it pretty clean. You should have a good population of them in there without all of the predation in the 55.

Try it. If it doesn't work....it will evolve.
 
They also sell the Purigen 100ml pouches fairly cheaply and you can buy a surface intake strainer from them that will fit the AC30.

Might as well get the best deals if you order from them to justify shipping costs.

And by "gravel", do you mean crushed coral or that freshwater stony stuff?
 
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